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Then what we need is a tutorial to do this. Don't get me wrong I am all for this 100%. Its just it would be nice to keep Posette and have a high Res map on the old gall and be able to conform some more clothes on here. Due to her hands some times it doesn't work right with other model clothes to put on her without ripping a mesh poly line and having holes in them. This has been the problem with many of the conformed clothes that have worked with those software's. If yamato would be so kind to tell us how to do this then it would be great. So I am all for fixing the problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

Regarding the mapping, i just looked all posettes and used the V3 mapped one, it needs some relaxing i think, so i will relax it a bit better.

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43169#p43169"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43169');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Then what we need is a tutorial to do this. Don't get me wrong I am all for this 100%. Its just it would be nice to keep Posette and have a high Res map on the old gall and be able to conform some more clothes on here. Due to her hands some times it doesn't work right with other model clothes to put on her without ripping a mesh poly line and having holes in them. This has been the problem with many of the conformed clothes that have worked with those software's. If yamato would be so kind to tell us how to do this then it would be great. So I am all for fixing the problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> I just thought the gal needed an update, Vicky is moving on so is Posette haha.

Then thank you and have a great day.

Ok nevsehir , I'm sorry but I can't understand what you're doing, maybe it's a language problem (I'm not of an english native language and neither you), so this is what I've understood: <br /> <br /> -You made a completely new model giving her the same shape of Posette and called her Posette <br /> -You're trying to Uvmap her in order to accept V4 textures <br /> <br /> if it's like that the result is not a Posette, it's not "Canon", she wouldn't be different from morphing a V4 or V5 or something else in order to make it look like a Posette, the process would be even easier <br /> <br /> Or: <br /> <br /> You started with a standard Posette (P4woman) because you said that the meshes are the same, so essentially you created a set of morphs, in this case she is a Posette with the shape you like. <br /> <br /> In this case, if you remap it to accept V4 textures, consider to do the work on the standard P4woman obj, then apply the morphs, the final result will be more useful: if the meshes are the same, the morphs should be accepted, but the result of a shape or movement morph applied on an already modified mesh is unpredictable. <br /> <br /> If I understood it, you're doing two things at the same time, or you already made a modified mesh for a Posette) essentially a set of morphs and now you passed to a radical remapping. <br /> <br /> As I told you, take it as a game, or, if you need help, just ask exactly what kind of help you need (for example "help me remapping the limbs"). Please don't feel offended by the low enthusiasm on a Posette clone, after many years a lot of us have become "zealots" (conservative) about Posettes. <br /> <br /> There is a message in the forum (somewhere) of some years ago, the topic was about the little differences between the models, by now it still doesn't exist a really new technology in the 3D arena: models are still made by polygons, with enough skill an artist can do the same things with a Posette or with a V-something , the rest is only a matter of easiness. <br /> <br /> Essentially, the so called "new models" are simply heavier objects made with more polygons, it's not that they made a model using "circles" instead of polygons, they are still the same thing. someone of us make a point in adapting dresses and accessories to our Posettes so that she can be always up to date. It works because the technology has not evolved enough, and here also comes the fact that a site like this little one is still actual: they say that Posette is outdated but for me it's only words dictated in order to push people at the marketplace to buy the umpteenth "new" girl in town... <br /> <br /> About the converters, none of them are for free, the same V5 that you are talking about is a commercial model while this site is dedicated, by statute, only to discussion involving free utilities and models. That's what we like , everything for free <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Tormie <br /> <br /> I lived years in new york;). It is just Posette, nothing different, only a set of radical morphing. I dont use any converters. What i was talking about JP( joints) is just a simple pose file done ages ago, you can compare it to geometrie swtiching. <br /> <br /> I dont even talk about more polygons. I said that daz took V4/5 to a new shape, namely: elite. I just wanted to make posette someone the same i.e body shape. I just completely remorphed posette to the shape of a real woman( i shaped her after photos). I can give you the morphs before hand so you can see yourself. <br /> <br /> You can already see it in the wireframe picture, they are exactly the same mesh, only very different shape thats all.

Yep, I got it... If you're using one of those commercial clothes converters you can use Posette as a "cloth" and try to adapt it to a different model, the result would be a mess but with some morphs that can be useful. <br /> <br /> Ok, keep us appraised <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I want to see the final result <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/d_canon.gif" alt="" />

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/group.gif" alt="" />

You can still use all the morphs but some work better than others, for instance, some expression morphs look silly cuz the shape is changed. The rig is still problematic but, if you have p8 or up you can still use the morph brush to smooth things out.

If you're using P8 you can perform some experiments with joints in the setup room. I remember the pose that changed the joint position, it was from a Japanese guy, anyway you can even obtain better results in the setup room

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43180#p43180"><div class="quote-user">Tormie wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43180');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">If you're using P8 you can perform some experiments with joints in the setup room. I remember the pose that changed the joint position, it was from a Japanese guy, anyway you can even obtain better results in the setup room</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yes Tormie hehe but i cant rig lol, i have pp12 and i just cant rig well. I made some small changes in the morphs so, she "poses" a bit better regarding the neck/collar area.

Yes I would like to see this come out great as well. Did you do all of this in Poser or did you rework the object in another modeler? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> I am just trying to help you and make sense to what is the best approach to this problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> It would be nice to see the girl get a face lift. She deserves it and has been a great character for sometime. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> Have you thought about moving the bones in different areas to see a better result? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43182#p43182"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43182');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Yes I would like to see this come out great as well. Did you do all of this in Poser or did you rework the object in another modeler? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> I am just trying to help you and make sense to what is the best approach to this problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> It would be nice to see the girl get a face lift. She deserves it and has been a great character for sometime. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> Have you thought about moving the bones in different areas to see a better result? <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> No she isnt morphed in poser <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br /> Regarding the bones: yes i tried this and i also tried making an own skeleton once but i failed, i tried this often, my strength is texturing and morphing human forms.

Ive made a little movie, from posette to posette premium( all the morph changes and my render settings, to get her very smooth) <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://esnips.com/displayimage.php?pid=32953618" target="_blank">http://esnips.com/displayimage.php?pid=32953618</a>

It says its not available. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" /> Man! I hate it when 21st century screws things up.

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43185#p43185"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43185');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">It says its not available. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" /> Man! I hate it when 21st century screws things up.</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> i can play it. maybe they deleted it, it has nudity in it hahah. <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://esnips.com/displayimage.php?pid=32953618" target="_blank">http://esnips.com/displayimage.php?pid=32953618</a> <br /> <br /> <br /> tested it again, and even logged out, for me it works :S

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /> That might be the problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> Any Who if you can put it on a download site we can take a look see and try to see your work. I know this has great promise. I hope to see you around more. I PMed you but no reply. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43187#p43187"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43187');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text"><img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /> That might be the problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> Any Who if you can put it on a download site we can take a look see and try to see your work. I know this has great promise. I hope to see you around more. I PMed you but no reply. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> lol it says i got 1 pm, but when i click on it, i dont get a message :P

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> As I said. 21st century no how for you. Oh well it was to just let you know I said hi and welcome to the site. Also we are friendly here and will try to help in any way we can. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43189#p43189"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43189');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text"><img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/lmao.gif" alt="" /> As I said. 21st century no how for you. Oh well it was to just let you know I said hi and welcome to the site. Also we are friendly here and will try to help in any way we can. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> I got it kenny, i think the sent went wonky on me hahaha <br /> <br /> ive set up a download link so you can download the movie too( the original movie is over 500mb, so i converted it to .flv format) its around 12mb now <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CSRTXMCX" target="_blank">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CSRTXMCX</a>

Just got it. Very interesting. Would like to see the clothes display with her and a full texture to see for the moment what the final out come may be. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43191#p43191"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43191');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Just got it. Very interesting. Would like to see the clothes display with her and a full texture to see for the moment what the final out come may be. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> hehh i tested her bikini, the top is reasonable, the bottom is uh well.. hehehe. the clothes need to be adjusted a lot. I tried it with the cloth room, but im ever inexpierenced with this stuff. Although i learned a bit from it.

The clothes Room and others I have never tried sad to say. I have been so busy in model making that I had forgotten all that was in Poser because I felt the models had more meaning as well as fun to me. Also it was good to give free stuff. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43193#p43193"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43193');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">The clothes Room and others I have never tried sad to say. I have been so busy in model making that I had forgotten all that was in Poser because I felt the models had more meaning as well as fun to me. Also it was good to give free stuff. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> well you asked me how she looked textured in a pm: <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.posetteforever.com/files/posted_images/5561/testskin.jpg" target="_blank" title="Click to open image in new window"><img src="http://www.posetteforever.com/files/posted_images/5561/testskin.jpg" alt="Image" width="400" title="Image" /></a> <br /> <br /> i just put a quick free skin on this posette. very sloppy render too. <br /> <br /> But just to give you an idea.

Works for me. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif" alt="" /> Now give the girl some make up, lipstick. Some eye shadow and a girls night on the town and you got it all going. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43195#p43195"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43195');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Works for me. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif" alt="" /> Now give the girl some make up, lipstick. Some eye shadow and a girls night on the town and you got it all going. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> I found this texture in rositys freestuff. its a nice texture, but its done in photoshop, this means the pores and all are not correct like in real human skin, wrong scale etc. My texture will take a long time to create cuz its all 360 degrees wrapped around the had, with stretched pores. It is called projection painting.

And we will be looking for it. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

YEs still a lot of work, if the rigging isnt enhanced. But im already working on another realistic female shape. Completely different, so we can choose different ethnics and different people. <br /> <br /> Maybe also some anime style? i never tried anime but helpful links are appreciated. Remember a mesh doesnt have limits, only the creator.

Ive uploaded Posette Premium alpha 1 <br /> <br /> she uses just the normal posette mapping here. Now you can see how afwul she bends. <br /> <br /> I have pp12 so the mapping system maybe a bit different, if you dont have pp12 i suggest you copy the included .cr2 file manually to your p4 characters runtime <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.2shared.com/file/C8dJlsII/PP_online.html" target="_blank">http://www.2shared.com/file/C8dJlsII/PP_online.html</a>

Going to check it out. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Thank you for the link nevsehir <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" />

Well darn it all we've hit a snag. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/dash2.gif" alt="" /> I have Poser Pro 2010. All the morphs and dials are not responding. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif" alt="" /> So unless you can transfer to a pz3 file or make it backwards compatible we are at a snag. Because others will not be able to use it. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43224#p43224"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43224');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Well darn it all we've hit a snag. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/dash2.gif" alt="" /> I have Poser Pro 2010. All the morphs and dials are not responding. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif" alt="" /> So unless you can transfer to a pz3 file or make it backwards compatible we are at a snag. Because others will not be able to use it. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/crybaby2.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> hmm ill see, i have pp12 so i dont know if its backward compatible:) <br /> <br /> hopefully it will work with the pz3 file <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.2shared.com/file/4UYBIDqy/posette.html" target="_blank">http://www.2shared.com/file/4UYBIDqy/posette.html</a>

Welp! Back to the Mad Scientist's Lab. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" />

Ok. I am afraid we still have a problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> Have you taken the P4 character and reworked the mesh. If so you might need to make another cr2 under a different name. It seems to me at this point it is not recognizing the cr2 with morphs you have made. But yet reverting back to the standard P4. However! The morph Dials are there. They just don't work with a different Poser such as mine. So there is something that the 2012 is doing, the 2010 is not. If you have a Poser that is around the Poser 7 or 8 era, then this will help the others. Even if you get this working in yours the bad part is all your efforts won't work with the others on back. At the moment I suggest to stop until this is resolved. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" /> But I will bet it is in the writing of the cr2 file that makes it different. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43231#p43231"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43231');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Ok. I am afraid we still have a problem. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> Have you taken the P4 character and reworked the mesh. If so you might need to make another cr2 under a different name. It seems to me at this point it is not recognizing the cr2 with morphs you have made. But yet reverting back to the standard P4. However! The morph Dials are there. They just don't work with a different Poser such as mine. So there is something that the 2012 is doing, the 2010 is not. If you have a Poser that is around the Poser 7 or 8 era, then this will help the others. Even if you get this working in yours the bad part is all your efforts won't work with the others on back. At the moment I suggest to stop until this is resolved. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_shifty.gif" alt="" /> But I will bet it is in the writing of the cr2 file that makes it different. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> it is just p4 female. hmm i dont have poser 8 anymore. only pp10 and pp12. the pz3 file and the cr2 file both work for me. <br /> <br /> I can dial and do anything like i can with just posette or any other figure

Ok that is a start. Try Poser Pro 2010. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> That way you have isolated this from the other software. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> The reason why it is working is because it is in your software runtime. Take the pz3 and put it in another Poser such as 10 and you should get the same results as myself. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" /> This is making it either work like 12 is doing or working like mine is in 10.

MM i opened up the cr2 file. it is refering to pmd files. Do you think it will work if i upload the pmd with it?

In order for you to trouble shoot to see if you are missing something is to have an older software on stand-by to see if it is indeed working on every Poser that is out there. The only software that may not be able to load all is 4. But even some may load it like in Poser Pro 4. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" /> As for an older software it should report a missing file. If the character is taking a long time to load then it is hunting for something. I would say your morphs would indeed be a part of that factor.

I never had so much trouble with a character like this :S. i dont have any old poser software anymore

hmm i did what you suggested, i deleted everything and you are right the dials are there but nothing is changing, maybe it is the pmd? i dont know

what i now do is load a blank posette, apply all the morphs again and it still works. but i did that with the file i uploaded too/

UPdate: <br /> <br /> In order for you to trouble shoot to see if you are missing something is to have an older software on stand-by to see if it is indeed working on every Poser that is out there. The only software that may not be able to load all is 4. But even some may load it like in Poser Pro 4. As for an older software it should report a missing file. If the character is taking a long time to load then it is hunting for something. I would say your morphs would indeed be a part of that factor. It is the soul reason to have another for you to test. That is why you see Beta Testers out side of the persons PC is to test to see if anything goes wrong. Another person would be Andreas but he only has Poser Pro 4. Davide would be the next choice to ask in this project. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

i think it is the pmd, it uses the morph information, i have it now unticked. i will upload a new file tomorrow.

<a href="http://www.posetteforever.com/files/posted_images/541/p_test.jpg" target="_blank" title="Click to open image in new window"><img src="http://www.posetteforever.com/files/posted_images/541/p_test.jpg" alt="Image" width="400" title="Image" /></a> <br /> <br /> <br /> Here is the test and it works. This is my texture with the girl. I made it for a SciFi Theme a while a go. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43243#p43243"><div class="quote-user">tda42 wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43243');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text"><a href="http://www.posetteforever.com/files/posted_images/541/p_test.jpg" target="_blank" title="Click to open image in new window"><img src="http://www.posetteforever.com/files/posted_images/541/p_test.jpg" alt="Image" width="400" title="Image" /></a> <br /> <br /> <br /> Here is the test and it works. This is my texture with the girl. I made it for a SciFi Theme a while a go. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /></div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> <br /> oh wow that is lovely. see it was that darn pmd heheheh. Well tomorrow ill upload the correct version so everybody can already have a play with it, with p4 textures. <br /> <br /> If you didnt tell me this was posette, i could have easily mistaken her for vic3

Here are the WORKING files for posette premium alpha. <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.2shared.com/file/LJqK3KIn/posette2.html" target="_blank">http://www.2shared.com/file/LJqK3KIn/posette2.html</a> <br /> <br /> you have to manually extract it in your posette character folder.

Now that's team work. <br /> <br /> She has promise, certainly has that V3 stature, with those hips, but definately has Posy's signature breasts with the nips pointing out (no mistake). <br /> <br /> Really great work already, and there is another in the works too (thanks).

<blockquote class="quote" cite="viewtopic.php?p=43249#p43249"><div class="quote-user">Chromium wrote: [<a href="#_somewhat" onclick="javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=43249');" class="genmed">View Post</a>]</div><div class="post-text">Now that's team work. <br /> <br /> She has promise, certainly has that V3 stature, with those hips, but definately has Posy's signature breasts with the nips pointing out (no mistake). <br /> <br /> Really great work already, and there is another in the works too (thanks).</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> well posettes breasts are actually quite good, only a bit too inward, so i only had to refine it a bit.

<img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Hi Kenny, I'm afraid we're fighting spam bots again, I deleted one yesterday here... <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/eusa_think.gif" alt="" />