https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1716
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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 07:19 AM

Keep an eye opened
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There is another user who is begenning to add trouble on the site  :roll: , he is [url=http://www.posetteforever.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1572]Ellpro, He began to post today, first insulting Posy, then posting a link to his commercial site,  then a link to a strange page... I don't know why but it seems that we're not cute enough to him.

Actually he received 2 warnings (5 warnings means ban) but I've a very bad feeling about him, so I turned on the approval mod, it means that every time he post, his posts need an approval from me or pangor (if you want to help and be added to the list please say it to me)...

He's active on renderosity and poserpros and other sites with the same nick.

Actually I need an opinion about this matter from you friends  :pray:


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 07:42 AM


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And it is what I wrote to him in PM, when he replied to me about the "free emails" who were recently prohibited for registration.

[i]

As I replied in one of your recent posts we're a group of friends and this is not a commercial site (there are no banners, shops or spam), so we don't care too much of how many members we gain. Basically we're an open group, but we become a closed one if we're attacked and accept new memberships only on invitations. It changes nothing for us because, as I said, this is not a commercial site. 

Actually it looks like you don't like our "philosophy", watching your posts.

Recently we had some "strong" discussions with some members and we're actually a little "reactive" when a problem appears, it explains why we reacted in that ways to your recent posts.

If you have something against us you can say it clearly, our reaction to clear or subtle criticism would be the same.

We try to be friendly to new users but sometimes it's impossible.[/i]


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Visitor
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 08:18 AM


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I agree.


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 08:26 AM


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Oh well, however friends, don't care too much of the guy... We had enough past experiences not to worry too much. I'll go back to my usual things ( :zzz: )  :uuh: :redface: ... Ehm... I've to prepare the interview to taz and prepare something for the incoming halloween  :lol:


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TdaC
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 10:41 AM


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Tormie the post i did about nea on rosity, i also did on poserpros. I know he's active at pp so i feel it's kind of my fault......I'll keep an eye on him


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 10:44 AM


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Your fault  :nono: ? Why Thilda ? People are strange you made nothing wrong with your advice of your freebie  :) ! Everyone can go here and make a mess...


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 10:47 AM


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Ellpro... :mmmh: I also keep a eye on this guy!


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 10:49 AM


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And Thilda... It is not your fault!  :nono: We can't see people heart in real wolrd either here!


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 10:59 AM


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:mmmh: That guy is sick! I never would expande my time to made a prop like that!  :sick:


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:00 PM


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Davide :heartbeat:  it is could sound weird from a guy who make assault rifles to his pics but a "Grey Anal Probe" for Dork is not a kind of thing what I want to see in Free Stuff Area. I can be wrong and the final decision is yours and I will support it.

This is only a personal opnion! :wink:


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:06 PM


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:uuh:  :uuh:  :uuh: Do we have a grey anal probe in our free stuff area  :uuh:  :uuh:  :uuh: ???? Tormie goes to check...


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:07 PM


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AH, I think you mean in his site :redface: ! Oh, don't worry John, I don't think he'll come back here...


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tda42
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:09 PM


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Wow look whats in the free section an anal probe. Thanks Davide. Just what Dork needed. :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:14 PM


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:oops: Sorry!  :oops: I mean in his site!!


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:24 PM


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:lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao: I'm really laughing here... The term "anal probe" make me ROTF :ROTFL: !!!


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tda42
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:27 PM


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I went to his sit and had a look. Me not into that kind of thing but still with an open mind does not understand his gift but has understood him. He is a graphics artist with a website and is married. He seems to have some good ideas and that is why I keep an open mind. The anal probe thinggy I think might have started with Southparks show with an anal probe that was planted in Carman in one episode. I have noticed that on his web site he seems to be a fan of Southpark. I have looked at some of his art as well and he is good with morphs and light. He to me is experamenting with the values of what can be done with Poser nude or not. GP and DV have done the same as well and I am tring to make this fair. He just to me did not see the rules. As for Posy I think some times we joke at her to get a reaction and don't really see the harm in it. I have done it in forums here and always had a good laugh with her. Maybe that was a reaction of fitting in as well. We all have to cailm down with all if this and see just really what was the intent. We are starting to build walls again and be afraid of people. Thilda I think you made contact with him if I remember right at another site. Talk to him and explain what had happen with us here. He just doesn't know why we are on guard here but we simply can't stay this way forever. If it leaks back to the other forums in other sites, some  people might think that we have become a cult. :mmmh: Thats not us folks. We are friendly. He just has a site and has directed his link to it for a get to know me thing. I don't think he even sales stuff there. :mmmh: Ask him if he would like a link and a banner put where the rest are. Just my thought but he has stated nude was sometimes a bad thing but not when you are experimenting with realism and light on a poser subject. Him being a Graphics Artist one would think it would come up with the nude and other adult subjects now and then. We have had adult subjects here. It's been a playful manner. Again just my thought. :) Kenny is waiting for the Axe. :uuh:


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:41 PM


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Sorry  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :wink:


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:43 PM


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:lmao:  :lmao: But I had :lmao:  :lmao:  to test  :lmao:  :lmao: that thing  :lmao: to know that the Hell was it!  :lmao:  :lmao: I am deleting it from my computer now! :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :redface:


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tda42
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:43 PM


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:eh:  :mmmh: I'm sure it is what it says but the rest of my words stands.


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:54 PM


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I never would attack you with a axe Kenny :heartbeat: ! I have nothing against nudity and I also know from where that machine come from a "Witchblade&Darkness" crossover with Predator! I  :heartbeat: comics but that one  :redface: ! I think only that a turture machine not is thing to be on other place but a adult site. None of us post a pic with a character being annal probing!   :wink:

I could over reation because what that guy said about Posy  :heartbeat: eyebrows! I was angry with it!  :bad-words: ! I know! :redface:


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 02:56 PM


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You're very kind hearted Kenny, and I'm in shame reading your post  :oops: .

I don't know. In the past I felt very guilty not to have taken a firm decision before things went to the big mess but actually the red lamp turned on for these reasons:

- Offending Posy: Posy is what she is but personally It's ok for a simple warning

- Saying that in his site there are nice props for the dork includes the anal probe,  
   for this reason I said to him to point the link directly on the props themsleves.
  In the past me too have found useful things on sites who have "strange"
  things in the catalogue but I pointed directly to the page of the
  prop

- For the same reason I removed the link to his site, in his first page he says
  "please visit my online stores", so publishing his link here is a simple way
  to redirect to his stores and also a simple way to address search engines
  bots. In any case it's allowed but only if in the site there is also a link
  to us. For this reason I removed some sites from our link raster in the front
  page, for example the one of Planit3d. We kept it for years but they never had 
  a link to us in their link page. I've the link to renderosity because of the
  "sponsored by" link under my pictures there and PF is on their link page too.

- He has a direct attitude to porn as far as I'm concerned. No problem about it
  as long as it doesn't involve our site in such things, in his topic "where the sun
   don't shine" he promotes directly his anal thing...

Actually I explained him what kind of site we're, that we're not interested in big numbers simply because here nothing has to be sold. If he agrees he will come back. It's the reason why I think he will never come back.


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tda42
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 03:26 PM


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I know it is your site with a big responsiblity Davide but it might have been a joke about the anle probe. He seems to be interested into talking in the forums with feedback but we have to remember Posy is loved but she is opened with being joked at just like us in the forums as we joked at ourselves. It's just part of the talk here at Posetteforever. You made some changes with Posy and someone seen something about her and made a comment. I think he knows she is part of the site. I don't know. :mmmh: Every sence we had that attack we now have more soilders in this and more barriers to throw up. I thought Plan-it3D had put a banner for you on there site. :mmmh: If not maybe GP being a mod over there can make that possible for you. :) We all have diffirent ways and ideas. That maybe a no-no but the other stuff didn't look bad. It's like the site (Posetteforever) has been raped. Now we trust know one to make love to it. :mmmh: Keep the light on guys. If it was you knocking on the front door, you would want the welcome mat thrown done as well. I hope this all gets back to normal soon.  :mmmh:


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 03:34 PM


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Sorry Kenny!  :redface: We post in the same time!


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TdaC
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 05:28 PM


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Kenny *waves hi* I don't know him. I made a post at rosity and a post at pp were i said that the morph johna was availble here.  I know ellpro is active at pp (i don't know him, i've just read his posts), that's why i felt responsible.

Since the anouncement of the johnamorph, i have gotten messeges from ppl who want to join the site but can't - because they have free email. I know what the rule is on that, i'm wonder what to tell them.


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Visitor
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 05:34 PM


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Of each of the free items on his site, he had to feature that one?  I think that along with the topic name was an attempt for him to test the limits of this site.

Unless he was commisioned to create it for a illustration for some book or television program on the subject or something like that, that probe is a very strange thing to spend his time creating.

Pangor


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JanReinar
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 05:54 PM


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[quote="pangor";p="25891"]Of each of the free items on his site, he had to feature that one?  I think that along with the topic name was an attempt for him to test the limits of this site.

Unless he was commisioned to create it for a illustration for some book or television program on the subject or something like that, that probe is a very strange thing to spend his time creating.

Pangor[/quote]

I know from where that machine come from a "Witchblade&Darkness" crossover with Predator! I  :heartbeat: comics but that one  :redface:


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tda42
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 06:49 PM


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I don't know. It's a mess. It's ok Thilda. I thought you might know him from some site. Maybe someone should talked to him. The e-mails are starting to be a problem because some don't want there e-mails to be blown away with junk mail and other problems as well as keeping their privacy. Which is why some have off site e-mails. No other site has this problem of my knowlege. I think if he was a problem that others would band him as well. But go to his site and he seems to be of the norm. Just someone that has an anal probe for poor Dork to be violated with. :eh:  :mmmh:  :hand:  :nono:  :uuh:  :roll:  :doh:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao: It's nothing we havn't seen before or heard of and it won't be the last. So how are we going to work out the e-mail problem. We need to get this worked out. As far as the guy here. I don't see him as a threat. Time to move on. :mmmh:


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 07:40 PM


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About Ellpro, nothing happened but a warning from pangor and me and the PM I showed you in this topic. I think the same of pangor, the guy was testing the limits of the site and probably they are too small for him.

About the free emails. We don't have a limitation on multiple accounts, but it become a problem if someone use this emails to make a mess. The alternative is a closer watch to the new users' accounts and the ability of the moderators to do their "work".

I'll explain what I mean better: If someone start to joke with the site the moderator that are online at the moment should know how to manage the forum, for example how to lock a topic waiting for the arrival of an admin.
No one of you is paid to help here, I'm sorry ( I can assure you that if I would have more money  :oops: I would pay you all ), however, in order to remove the email limitations I need more cooperation from you all. Pangor know very well the software of the site but I don't know the level of the other moderators, every time I got you the ranks without asking. In any case it's not such a difficult thing, here is the link for the documentation:

http://www.phpbb.com/support/guide/#section5

There is a similar moderator's panel in the album. Each one of you is a moderator on all the forum as part of the "moderators" group, so near the topic posted by an user you can see some colored flags. if you use the yellow flag you send a warn to the user (light violation of the rules), the red one means ban and the blu one send a complain about the topic to an admin (me). The blu one is available to all members. Only the admin can see the green one, to unban an user.

So, friends, In order to "free" the emails I need more surveillance on the site from all the staff members, who should know what to do and how. We can "sign a pact": if you learn how to use the tools of the moderators I'll remove the limitation.
No one of you should feel forced about what I wrote, think about it because it's a sort of job...


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tda42
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 08:18 PM


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I have no problem with it Davide. I will be on line around 2:00 A.M. my time till 5:00 A.M. pretty much all week.  :)


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TdaC
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 08:21 PM


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:mmmh: well i'm computer challanged and i read the doc, but still don't get it. So i wouldn't "sign a packt". 

What i'm looking for is sort of a standard answer to give to the ppl sending me messeges. Mostly they asked if there's a way around the email thing. 

So far, i have just said Sorry, there isn't.


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Tormie
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 08:38 PM


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It's ok Kenny, but the matter is not to be online but to know what to do if one see that something strange is happening... Anyway i don't think it's a good idea because it could keep away a lot of fun  :mmmh: and complicate things. I don't like to work at all  :oops: and it seems a sort of job... lol...

Actually the standard answer for them is right Thilda :"Sorry, no way".


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tda42
Saturday, 15 October 2005, 11:54 PM


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Davide what I ment is that is the time I am usually on the site after I get home from work. :thumb: I am into PC and can handle the pact if need be. I am just looking at the site for bad guys giving us and the members here a bad time. :thumb:


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Visitor
Sunday, 16 October 2005, 01:22 AM


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That is pretty much as I have been doing,  therefore, I will continue doing it. ;-)

Pangor


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Tormie
Sunday, 16 October 2005, 10:56 AM


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Following Kenny's thought I'll remove the restrictions, but "keep an eye opened" friends  :wink: .


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tda42
Sunday, 16 October 2005, 12:02 PM


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Ok! Lets go with business as usual.  :thumb:


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guiltypleasures
Thursday, 20 October 2005, 03:04 AM


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I agree, business has been slow lately and these anal probes I've stocked the shelves with haven't been selling much, I think it's time for a two for one sale  :lol:  :whistle:  :prrr:  :lol:  :lmao: 

Actually I know of Ellpro on another site as well, and I don't recall him being a problem, but I haven't been to the site much lately to see what's going on. I will also keep watch here on the going's on and try to be on duty more often  :uuh:  :oops:  :sad:


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Ozymandias Jones
Tuesday, 25 October 2005, 12:00 AM


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It's down to vigilance. Not much else we can do really?

We few have to keep the place safe to the best of our ability. :pray:


