https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=4067 ----------------------------------- Nik Sunday, 13 March 2022, 05:03 PM Two Ways To Make Stuff Glow... ----------------------------------- I'm usually happy making lights etc glow using 'super-ambient', but there is an undocumented limit. The surface brightness does [b][i]not [/i][/b]increase if dialled beyond a dozen or so. This is not a problem if you have 'luminaires' with a large surface area, like ceiling-panel lights. It is a nuisance if skinny 'strip-lights', exasperating if pendant bulbs or wall sconces. The latter may need lonnnng renders to accumulate enough virtual photons... ( Else, Plan_B, hiding new Poser point-source lights within... ) Oddly, none of the Poser gurus seem prepared to discuss this limit. I get feeling 'super-ambient' facility may be a 'legacy' feature, or an accidental oopsie like 'cross-talk' that proved useful. And, in subsequent versions, may be quietly deprecated then lost... The second route is to pull-on your mail shark-suit, buckle your weight-belt, check your twin SCUBA tanks and pony-bottle, plunge into Cycles... IMHO, Pp_11's Cycles UI makes using it hard work. Lists should be alphabetic beyond first few 'handy' options. There should be a 'directory', and there really, [b][i]really [/i][/b]should be a [b][i]map[/i][/b]. Okay, rant over. After brisk discussion at Rendo', and ingestion of [b][i]sufficient [/i][/b]caffeine via several mugs of 'Builders Tea', I've learned the basics of how to get 'Emission' working. There are two 'gotchas'-- Okay, three. First, 'Cycles' is [b][i]much [/i][/b]more powerful and complex, this is but the 'kindergarten wall'. Second, Cycles UI is [b][i]seriously [/i][/b]unfriendly, see rant above. Third, the FX only shows up when you render in Superfly. So, lots of test-renders. Okay, you need two test-subjects. I'll use the default prop 'box', usually found in Poser Primitives between 'Bowl' and 'Cane'. Load one into scene, move it along a few feet. Load or duplicate another. Position handy... [b]First way[/b]: Super-ambient Go to Material room, click on first prop box in mini-window or object list. Select 'advanced' tab. Should now show 'Poser Surface' list. Set 'Ambient Color' to taste, usually a light hue. Set 'Ambient Value' in range 1~~10, which should bring up a nice glow. [b]Second way[/b]: Cycles' Emission (very basic) Go to Material room, click on second prop box in mini-window or object list. Select 'advanced' tab. To right of 'Poser Surface' list, there should be an empty gray area between list and too-skinny scroll-bar. Right-click there. Menu pops up, 'New Node'. Follow this right via Root to 'Cycles Surface'. Left-click on this to select. Right-click in the empty gray area below this small, new list. Menu pops up, 'New Node'. Follow this right via Cycles, Shader, Emission. Left-click on this. Left click and drag the white Emission spot-tab onto the Cycles Surface black spot-tab. This should create a link or channel. In Cycles Surface list, left-click the Superfly Root tick-box to enable it. In Emission list, set Color and Strength to taste. Test-render in Superfly, iterate until satisfied... Low values of 'Super-Ambient' and 'Emission' are similar brightness, but 'Emission' does not max-out, may be dialled to 'bleach'. Have fun !! ----------------------------------- rico Monday, 14 March 2022, 09:45 AM Re: Two Ways To Make Stuff Glow... ----------------------------------- :wink: :thumb: Thank you kindly Nik, I didn't even realise there was a limit!