I also did not know that   didn't  have Thilda and Andreas permission to use theirs stuff on his project. The RR staff  would have to remove the chararcter  from their free stuff area!

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I think he will take out those morphs from the character and that's all.

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I wish I knew which other head morphs are copyrighted too... I wouldn't like Nea2 to use them...

I hope this goes well and everyone is happy at the end!  

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Tormie wrote: [View Post]

I think he will take out those morphs from the character and that's all.

I hope he would do it but until there they would have to remove the character with the MTs from their free stuff area.

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Unless u have permission i would remove these morphs from the head:

THe Lmouth morphs
Linlin J
Linlin wink R
Linlinwink L
Linlin blink R
Linlin blink L
Nene wink R3
Nenewink L3
Underlid R
Underlid L
eyebottom
Alomondeye

The morphs above have japanease creators and was offered as part of characters linlin and nene.


Everything with a name, several of the name morphs belong to duane moody, other are from rendo free stuff.
The klingon morph is ahjah's


Lundernose - i recoginize it but don't know who the creator is.

I think the remapp is a great idea. But i don't like the stealing of other ppl's creations. If he would have asked me,  my reaction would have been very different. He would have been allowed to use all my morphs. But he choose to steal instead and therefore i don't want any of my stuff used in this. I wrote him a pm yesterday at rosity, and i have not gotten any reply - not in a pm, not in an email and not in the forum there.

All things with a name several of the name morphs belong to duane moody other are from rendo free stuff! I think I have been allowed to use all his or her morphs. Did they write back?

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I recognized those morph too, I was remember that those are character names and removed them  
Also I have removed character morphs because I want to keep only the shaping morphs...

I have to agree that request for permission or at least credit is the only thing someone that makes a freebie deserves!

I wasn't asked for permission but in Nea's readme I think I say her morphs are distributable, however the readme doesn't mention Nea at all...
Anyway I didn't think of it negative because it is something new for Posette and found this positive...

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Rather than complex, the bottom line is simple. On the read me file it should have all the legal stuff attached to
it. Permission is asked by the rightful owner of the morph to be used. When declined the person must stop all efforts to work the morph into the character. If the second party gives permission and it is a free project of the first party then he or she will be made notice a credit to the read me file of the rightful owner of the morph. A time frame should be put up of a reasonable time of one year for a person to come forward to dispute a claim of theirs to that morph or a part or whole of their work in general. From that time it is the second parties soul purpose to be made aware of such claims. After 1 year has past the second party if they have not contacted the first party of the said project will be removed from there rights because of the time of non-contact. All parties involved in order to make this legal will have to type a release of rights over to the first party from the date the permission was granted.



So how is that?

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Thank you Kenny   . Pitklad and Kenny , I understand what you mean: on the balance, a new character is more important than some legal stuff. However, talking of Posetteforever, we were strict on our TOS even if it costed a lot, also in terms of losing very expert users. But, as I wrote on rosity, it's not a project shared here so we're not involved if not that the morphs, like Thilda's one, has been downloaded from here and they were covered by the GNU licence (as pangor rightly wrote), and if a friend here asks for help for defending his or her work, I'll help. I think that including thirdy party morphs without asking for permission is simply provocative: I can't think the author is so stupid, that's why I don't want PF to be involved, I smell that it was done on purpouse. If you think about it, it would be very simple to include in the readme a list of morphs (with the relative link) to be included in the package, things like "Import Pitklad's Nea Morph with morph manager for best results"   ...

For what concerns me, simpathy or not for the author, for Posy   and in general for all my Posettes I use Arduino's Eve with quasi-standard textures that I make myself. It would be no difference for me for the shape of the texture because I make it myself. I don't make "all" myself, there are a lot of cut & paste but I don't share anything.

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Interesting.  Did they write back?

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Hi, the gue remapping the Posette has now removed my morph - don't know about the others. He also apologized in the forum and in a pm.
So on my part the case is closed.

I still think though that it is best to use one's own creations....

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I totally agree with that!
That's why I made all Nea 1 morphs form scratch and I will be very carefull which morphs from PosetteV3 I'll include on Nea 2!

I'm happy everything gone well and hope this makes anyone else in the future more careful!  

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I am going to have to disagree with you Thilda. But we have known each other for a while now so I think I can say this. Ok, here goes. If everyone felt that they should use their own models, morphs and things then there would not be any Poser. True fact. Poser doesn't do it all and some people are not as knowledgeable with Poser and other software to get things done. Which comes to people like us. PitKlad, Ahjah, you and I not to mention countless others out there who help people. You can never judge this mishap as a forever thing. That would be unfair to others. What I am saying is things happen and people do make real honest mistakes. But the good in others always seems to shine. We can't just stop. It is in our nature to always pick it up and keep on going. So in a nut shell, no caring, no sharing means no nothing. Without a care, see how long and boring Poser would be without sharing and think of all before us that did share. Ok you can throw the rotten tomatoes now.

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Two wrongs don't make a right.
But six left turns will get you around the block
and back in the driveway again.