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3D Nightmares... Or... The little sculptor - Which Free Modeller ??



Nik [ Sunday, 16 December 2007, 01:34 AM ]
Post subject: Which Free Modeller ??
Which free modeller would you suggest for making OBJ meshes for P4 clothes ?? <br /> <br /> I've got links for Wings3D, LightRay3D, TrueSpace, Metasequoia, ZModeller, Anim8or, MilkShape... Oh, and MakeObj. <br /> <br /> Note: I am not an artist, I've come to Poser via Draw3D and TurboCAD, so my modelling background is boolean rather than subdivision... <br /> <br /> Okay, okay, the one with the best beginners' tutorials ? Yes ?? <br /> <br /> Um, would be nice if it did 3DS, too... <br /> --- <br /> <br /> FWIW, I've just found the first cache of freebies I downloaded for Poser, then a cover-disk v3, back in 2003... <br /> D'uh, yes, they include MakeOBJ, plus Skelwar1, 2 and poses !!
Tormie [ Sunday, 16 December 2007, 02:10 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
Blender of course <br /> <br /> <a class="post-url" href="http://www.blender.org/" target="_blank">http://www.blender.org/</a> <br /> <br /> (Andreas would agree <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) <br /> <br /> There are also some nice tutorials by rayera on how to make morphs with it...
TdaC [ Sunday, 16 December 2007, 10:15 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
I have only used animator...i think that program is too simple for making clothes as in i don't think it is good for it, but i have seen it done. It is more a program for props i think.
Marv [ Tuesday, 18 December 2007, 01:54 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
I use Wings 3D. It has a low learning curve making it very easy to learn and to use. I know of several that have used it for creating clothes, morphs and figures for use in Poser.
Nik [ Tuesday, 18 December 2007, 02:26 AM ]
Post subject: "It Has A Low Learning Curve..."
"It has a low learning curve..." <br /> <br /> That sounds promising !! <br /> <br /> I've been collecting entry-level tutorials on making Poser4 conforming clothes, something I never bothered trying last time around... <br /> <br /> Looks like the really hard part will be building heirarchy, so I've picked up Phi-builder... <br /> <br /> I realise that most of this will be superceded when I finally un-crate P_7, but my curiosity has been piqued. After several hours fixing pointers in that GeishaGirl CR2, I began to recognise the layout-- And I *think* I saw where it went wrong.... <br /> <br /> Hmm, be a couple of weeks before I can get back to it, never mind 'roll my own', so still time for more advice on 'easiest modeller' !!
tda42 [ Tuesday, 18 December 2007, 02:52 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
I would have to agree. Wings would be the easiest but to make head morphs or body morphs Blender would be the way to go as well. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/thumb.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Tuesday, 18 December 2007, 03:02 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
I've a flat learning curve <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /> ... Maybe it's because I'm very very lazy and I prefer to modify already made models for my own use that create new from scratch because it means a lot of work <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/connie_ashamed.gif" alt="" /> ...
leahman [ Friday, 21 December 2007, 07:04 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
I use Wings for making characters (obj.) <br /> MANY of which you have not yet seen. <br /> <br /> and I still use Infini-D for making Props. <br /> <br /> I've got a learning curve <br /> thats lower than whale poop. <br /> <br /> Letz face it folks I've grown OLD but Being retired I still like to play with this stuff <br /> I'm still a kid on the inside and weird besides <br /> but the gray matter -that used to run like a T-3 line <br /> is now running at dial-up speeds.... (heart attacks do that ) <br /> I did graphics in the Printing Industry 1972 - 1998 <br /> I'm falling behind but this is now just a hobby and not <br /> making a living. I can't loose this job <br /> But I think you guys should learn Wings make some characters <br /> You can make a few bucks though I only sell my Panther model <br /> you guys are talented and could do well.
tda42 [ Friday, 21 December 2007, 09:48 AM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
Sad about the heart attacks Leahman. As for the models we have done that and believe me in my line of work if I could make a living doing that I would. As a matter of fact it would be nice to just stay home and build models for sale. But sad to say I wouldn't know where to begin on set-up on sales or things like that so I simply have fun. Thanks for the kind words though. I don't think there is anybody out here that didn't think it made their day. <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Nik [ Sunday, 30 December 2007, 02:46 PM ]
Post subject: Wings 3D Download Problems...
Um, when I finally got around to installing Wings3D, Control Panel reported a corrupted file. So, after checking my PC-PC USB link was not responsible, I downloaded again, now a later version. Still corrupted. Second try at this version, still corrupted, I spotted the file-size was about half of expected. <br /> <br /> Eventually, it downloaded 'clean', and installed without problems. <br /> <br /> Phew !! <br /> <br /> Now I gotta learn to use it... <br /> <br /> First priority is combining a set of bizarre morph-targets into plausible prosthetic props for stab at a 'Halloween Shop' scene... <br /> <br /> Just Don't Ask...
rayera [ Sunday, 30 December 2007, 10:17 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
I'd recomend you my personal experience: I Started with anim8or, is a great program to start lerning 3D modeling, as Thilda sayed I don't think it suitable for modeling clothes, but doing your first props is a great begining, you won't start modeling a Maria Antonieta 18 century dress for begining <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/smile.gif" alt="" /> (I tryed <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /> ) <br /> <br /> When I feeled confortable with anim8or I moved to Wings3D, and that is a great simple and free modeler, the inteface is quite diferent to anim8or, actually is diferent to most others modeler, I didn't find a lot of tutorials for this one, and most I learned was experimenting, but don't fear this, experimenting in wings is a pleasure because once you get the basics it become very intuitive. <br /> <br /> After wings I moved to blender, Blender is a particular Program, at first glance it looks terrible complex and complicated, and the true is it is <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> but once you get it you'll see everything in Blender is optimized for fast and productive work, I'v found a loooot of tutorials for this program, (note that I don't call blender a modeler, because is much, much more than that), the most useful are video tutorials, that I absolutally like, of all free 3D programs I think Blender is the most powerfull with a Great community developing it and enhancing it, the tools that have are awesome, with blender you can Model using subdivision (subsurface in Blender lenguage) and you can lower it or increase wile you model and then set it when you are satisfy, you can use mirror modeling, and a lot more very powerful tools; you can unwrap UV very in an easy way and very acurate, you can sculpt like in Zbrush, and you can 3D paint like in Deep Paint 3D, not to mention animate, and render with it's internal renderer using very advanced material shading tools,or with the great yafray renderer adon or with others via exporting, even powerful node system, and then once your render is finished you can make the composition for the final picture using again a powerful and intuitive node system; Blender is an incredibly powerful free tool (open source, so if you are advanced in programing you can modify it at your liking) a jewel for poser users, you have many comercial programs in a free one, just need some patient to learn it, but the efort really will pay with great results. <br /> <br /> By the way my next Blender Tutorial will be about modeling dynamic clothes, just give me some time to fix my windows instalation, but as I feel confortable in Linux I'm too lazy to do all back up and reinstalation <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/redembarrassed.gif" alt="" /> just give me some time <img src="https://www.posetteforever.com/images/smiles/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Tormie [ Sunday, 30 December 2007, 11:07 PM ]
Post subject: Re: Which Free Modeller ??
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