https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2801 ----------------------------------- Tormie Friday, 15 June 2007, 11:43 PM Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Hi friends :friends: I'm trying some experiments with the hair generation / dynamic hair . This is my first try enanching Posy's :heartbeat: eyebrows, The texture is a little different from the usual too . The next step would be to create the lashes with the same method , then the hair ! The good thing of this function, apart the look, is that the hair follow the morphs :). I created three different hair zones on the eyebrows area and modelled the hair , it's not easy and I'm not an expert, iwould know what you think about it. Suggestions are very welcome ! P.S. There isn't any postwork :oops: ----------------------------------- Whazizname Saturday, 16 June 2007, 01:28 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Hmmm... :mmmh: I haven't tried many experiments with dynamic hair yet; so I can only have a limited opinion. I'd prefer a side by side comparison; but I think the dynamic hair adds a bit to the "realism" of the eyebrows. (: ----------------------------------- GrouchoCaesar Saturday, 16 June 2007, 02:47 AM Re: Experiments With Dynamic Hair ----------------------------------- My only concern with this idea is the amount of extra rendering time - if you are happy to put up with that then by all means keep on with it! ----------------------------------- Tormie Saturday, 16 June 2007, 08:37 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- You're both right, my goal is to make a close up portrait of Posy and in general to usethe hair on eyeborws and lashes only in closeups even if it's rare that I realize a picture in tihis way... ----------------------------------- Posy Saturday, 16 June 2007, 08:37 AM ----------------------------------- You think I am both right my goal is to make a close up portrait of you and in general to usethe hair on eyeborws and lashes only in closeups even if it is rare that I realize a picture in tihis way. ----------------------------------- Tormie Saturday, 16 June 2007, 08:37 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: ----------------------------------- tda42 Saturday, 16 June 2007, 10:53 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Ok you wanted to know what we think and I say it is a good start but I think the eye brow area is a little to thick or big if you will for a round faced small girl like Posy. :mmmh: She should have thinner eye brows and it would make the job more easier. Just a thought. :thumb: How ever this is interesting to say the least. :bigrinnin: ----------------------------------- Posy Saturday, 16 June 2007, 10:53 AM ----------------------------------- What is a thought? ----------------------------------- tda42 Saturday, 16 June 2007, 10:56 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- It's when someone has an idea or a feeling to carry out an act or solve a problem Posy. :thumb: ----------------------------------- Posy Saturday, 16 June 2007, 10:56 AM ----------------------------------- Really. when someone has an idea or a feeling to carry out an act or solve a problem you is? ----------------------------------- tda42 Saturday, 16 June 2007, 10:58 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- A question following a question, huh Posy? :lmao: ----------------------------------- Posy Saturday, 16 June 2007, 10:58 AM ----------------------------------- I'm glad you find this amusing. ----------------------------------- tda42 Saturday, 16 June 2007, 10:59 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Now thats a thought. :mmmh: ----------------------------------- Tormie Saturday, 16 June 2007, 03:13 PM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Thank you Kenny :) While I put the "3d" eyebrows I'll cover the textures behind it for a nice (I hope) final effect. Posy's :heartbeat: eyebrows are the trademark of her :grin: ----------------------------------- Posy Saturday, 16 June 2007, 03:13 PM ----------------------------------- You are quite welcome! What you said was either too complex for me. ----------------------------------- Tormie Saturday, 16 June 2007, 03:13 PM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: ----------------------------------- Tormie Sunday, 17 June 2007, 02:25 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Here is the next step on this experiment: I've erased the eyebrows painted in the texture and kept only the "3d" eyebrows. They are very difficult to "style" and it took me a lot of time and I've still to work on it. I made also a couple of very beautiful lashes when the damn program closed itself without reason as often happens :bad-words: :bad-words: :bad-words: :crying: :crying: :crying: ----------------------------------- tda42 Sunday, 17 June 2007, 04:06 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Now thats looking great. :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: But I wonder why it closed on you. :mmmh: Very strange. But, it looks like Posy is looking better and better. :thumb: ----------------------------------- Posy Sunday, 17 June 2007, 04:06 AM ----------------------------------- Why now? I'm glad we have that all cleared up. ----------------------------------- Tormie Monday, 18 June 2007, 12:35 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Here is the work of today , in this pose you can see that the eyebrows are 3d, and I made the lashes too :) ----------------------------------- ahjah Monday, 18 June 2007, 05:15 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: I don't know much about dynamic hair, yet, but Posy looks amazing here (I love the freckles :) ) ----------------------------------- Posy Monday, 18 June 2007, 05:15 AM ----------------------------------- :-) I think I'm falling asleep. ----------------------------------- Tormie Monday, 18 June 2007, 07:40 PM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- :mmmh: :mmmh: :mmmh: I'm thinking that I could share my work on the dynamic eyebrows and lashes, it should work exporting the character, but I've to try (obviously default Posette :hand: ) ----------------------------------- Tormie Monday, 18 June 2007, 07:54 PM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Unfortunately it doesn't work exporting the hair as props: they work like normal props, don't move with the eyebrows' morphs and show only the guide hairs. I'll think at another solution :mmmh: :mmmh: :mmmh: (You should think with me :mmmh: :mmmh: :mmmh: ) ----------------------------------- Tormie Tuesday, 19 June 2007, 01:27 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- This is the work of today: you can see that using these light the eyebrows need more work. The lashes are temporary, the dynamic version is not good looking so I *ehm* have stolen the lashes from another character, they can't move and you can see that they are not exactly ok. I want to learn what is behind the prop-lashes of characters like Ranran or Linlin that are parented to the head and can move according to the eye morph of the head and to the same with Posy :heartbeat: . The teeth are props parented to the head, the eyes are taken from the P6woman (Jenny ?). I worked a little on the lips in order to smooth them (they were too big) and make the shape lightly non symmetrical. I took the lacrimals from another character and modified them for Posy :heartbeat: , they are parented props. The hair are from the P6woman dynamic hairs, I adapted the follycle prop to Posy's :heartbeat: head in the cloth room making a morph target. I realized that I need to paint the hair on the skull, here I used the chignon hair from kozaburo under the dynamic hair or the skin can be seen under the dynamic hairs. I used Kirisute lights (free at renderosity). I'll work on it more and more for a close-up, big portrait that I want to print and hang here in my house :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: ----------------------------------- Posy Tuesday, 19 June 2007, 01:27 AM ----------------------------------- Did you get paid for working on a little on the lips in order to smooth them they were too big and make the shape lightly non symmetrical ? And that worked well for you. ----------------------------------- Tormie Tuesday, 19 June 2007, 08:15 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Thank you :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: ! ----------------------------------- tda42 Wednesday, 20 June 2007, 12:35 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- I will have to say Davide that is a good look on Posy. Scary to believe that she is beginning to look so real. You have done a good job on her. :thumb: ----------------------------------- Posy Wednesday, 20 June 2007, 12:36 AM ----------------------------------- What makes you think I have done a good job on her? ----------------------------------- Tormie Wednesday, 20 June 2007, 03:36 PM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Thank you Kenny :friends: , this is the last one I made after the dynamic hair work and it will be my next picture. I would make it like an advertisement, something like "use only original Posettes" with some box of medicine with "posetteforever" written on it... But now I'm tired (Too much Posy...) ----------------------------------- ahjah Wednesday, 20 June 2007, 07:04 PM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: ----------------------------------- Whazizname Wednesday, 20 June 2007, 10:25 PM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Great work with the dynamic hair Tormie! Here is an advertising slogan for you to consider: "Posette, accept no substitutes!" (: ----------------------------------- Tormie Thursday, 09 August 2007, 02:54 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- Ok, it's summertime and I'm working at night but I'm still messing with Posy :heartbeat: :grin: ... ----------------------------------- Posy Thursday, 09 August 2007, 02:54 AM ----------------------------------- Should I know summertime and I am working at night but I am still messing with you heartbeat grin is? ----------------------------------- Tormie Thursday, 09 August 2007, 02:54 AM Re: Experiments with dynamic hair ----------------------------------- :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: