https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3242
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ahjah
Sunday, 04 May 2008, 09:08 PM

Vespa Tuning
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Hi Friends :hugs:
I've been playing with the Vespa (by VK, in our freebies) :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat: 
I added five more materials, the colored ones in the preview.
You'll need UV Mapper to apply the attached UVS (don't forget to backup the original OBJ)
I didn't change the map itself, so all textures still work :D

It's kind of WIP, so I didn't put it into the regular downloads...


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Tormie
Monday, 05 May 2008, 12:02 AM

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Thank you Andreas :hug2: I like to play with the Vespa :tormie: !!


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JanReinar
Monday, 05 May 2008, 01:29 PM

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Thanks Andreas!  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  :dance:  :dance:  :dance:  :dance:  :dance:  :dance:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:


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Tormie
Thursday, 08 May 2008, 01:50 PM

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I created a seed pcf file to use with the objaction mover, it creates the new obj made by Andreas if you want to use the mover that you can find here:

http://www.sandylodge.demon.co.uk/

instead of the uvmapper, the process is quite the same, you've to change the original vespa3.obj with the one created by Andreas in

RuntimeGeometriesvspscooter

keeping a copy of the original :D


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ahjah
Thursday, 08 May 2008, 02:09 PM

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:thumb: :D


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Whazizname
Friday, 09 May 2008, 02:52 PM

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Thanks Ahjah! This modification will be handy in some cases.  :thumb: 

Thanks Tomie! I don't what it is about UVMapper; but I seem to go out of my way to avoid using it. :redface: 



(:


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leahman
Monday, 19 May 2008, 06:35 AM

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:thumb: Thanks Ahjah! 
These modifications giving those material regions
makes all the difference in using the Vespa.  Back in the 50s SEARS offered
a VESPA clone, but it wasn't as nice as the Vespa, now the model looks like
the Vespa  -instead of a copy.

Now  if we could just talk VK  -into  'a Harley 883 model...
 :D 
I just think Posette  would be very pleased....


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Tormie
Monday, 19 May 2008, 08:36 AM

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If I'm not wron leahman :mmmh: that was a genuine Vespa with another (american) brand, I'll search on the dedicated fora, but I know that it's very rare and one of those has a very high value ...


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leahman
Monday, 19 May 2008, 04:06 PM

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Tormie they were  very plain,  no chrome, and usually Grey in color...
My uncles had those but complained loudly they wanted 
an Indian or a Norton...

SEARS sold them  showing the little "sheild" and claiming 
they were safe  to ride
 in the rain....

believe me, they proved   not so safe to ride -in the rain
for 14 yr. olds....


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Tormie
Monday, 19 May 2008, 07:03 PM

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:thumb: You were so lucky to see one of those leahman, it was a very rare genuine Vespa made for the American market :D . Yep, you're very lucky.

It was named "Vespa Allstate Crusaire and was a little different from the model of those years sold in Italy, for example, no front shock absorber :dontknow:

Here is [img]http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS3.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS1.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.vespaforever.net/lo_file/ALLS2.JPG[/img]

And this is the page of the italian site that talks about it :

http://www.vespaforever.net/lo.htm

it is at the middle of the page, here is the quick translation of the text:
"[i][b]It exists, but it's very rare, a Vespa branded "All State"[/b]

In November 1951 begin the adventure of the Vespa in the United States. On November the 14th the (italian) press agency ANSA announce the agreement between Piaggio and Sears, Roebuck & Co. in Genova (Italy) by which the american colossus of distribution would sell in the USA the scooter that made move again Europe in the post war period. The first stock of 1000 Vespa sailed on december 1951. The model that went to conquer the USA was the 125cc, rebabtized "Vespa Allstate Crusaire" and modified in some things for the requests of the american market: the Lamp "climbs" from the mudguard to the handlebars. It costs 325,95 dollars.

It's a serie that was sold in the USA from 1961 to 1966 by catalog from "Sears & Robuk Co", very similar to the classic versions, it lacked the shock absorber in the front suspension, like the "cheap" 125 U[/i]

About the shield and the shape of the Vespa, it's made that way in order for the driver not to dirt with the oil of the engine that was (and still is) totally covered over the rear wheels and the shield offered protection against wind and rain (so girls don't dirt the clothes when they ride with you :wink: ) . Vespa and sccoters in general and not exactly safe to ride in the rain, you have to "know it" very well, the "gravity center" first of all . If you ride it like a normal bike you ass will kiss the asphalt soon. It's a mass production scooter for poor people, an Indian or a HD is out of financial reach for the owner of a Vespa of that period (In Italy we had obvioulsy other brands of big bikes, like Ducati, Guzzi, Gilera etc.).

BTW, if you find one of those rarity you have a treasure in your hands, you can sold it in Italy for a pile of bucks...


P.S. And usually Vespe were not "all crome", only some particulars, usually they are entirelly painted, the most common color is White, the classics are grey or those kind of color (look at that site)


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leahman
Monday, 19 May 2008, 09:03 PM

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:lmao:  I can't wait  to tell my Uncle he has a treasure 
in that piece of crap
rusting in the back of his garguage 
-for the last 50 years...

I remember the ONE time he gave me a ride...
he did his best to sling me off the back...
I wouldn't be here, but  it had very little power...


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Tormie
Monday, 19 May 2008, 09:08 PM

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Take some shots, send them to me and I communicate with that forum, they are all experts, I could say you how it can worth and if there is someone interested in it. You can save a Vespa  :thumb: . You could even start an auction on italian ebay :D ...


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leahman
Monday, 19 May 2008, 09:20 PM

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:mmmh:  I don't think  there's enough to save...
there's no piece of it anyone would want.
It quit running 50 years  ago and relageted  
in a leaky garguage, with my  stupid Uncle's 
old rusting outboard motors
broken fishing rods, and  many many  roaches...

It's the sort  'of wet  smelly  place
Bill Gates should be sent to
for life....

My Uncle would only try to CON somebody
out of money, claiming it was a  "perfectly-good" 
Scooter... There isn't so much as a screw not rusty 
beyond recognition...


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Tormie
Monday, 19 May 2008, 10:06 PM

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They save real Vespa corpses, if it really exists anymore and maybe has papers it can be saved even because most of the pieces can be taken from parts of that period. As I said if that Vespa is really around just some shots can give an idea to an amateur who restores Vespe.


