https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=860 ----------------------------------- tda42 Thursday, 24 June 2004, 02:10 PM DAZ has just Bought Bryce ----------------------------------- Just got the word about Bryce 5.It has been bought by DAZ 3D and I think it's going on sale.Not sure how much but if they can get Poser to work with it then boy talk about background and environment possiblities. :bigrinnin: ----------------------------------- pbnj Thursday, 24 June 2004, 07:16 PM ----------------------------------- in the plat club newletter daz was making cryptic comments about them and a 'new' merger/purchase blah, blah, bascially the rambled on saying we've got something cool up our sleeve but we can't tell you anything about it right now becuz of legal reasons. a friend and i spent the rest of the evening speculating on it being about bryce and if it were what our wishlist items/features would be, heh. :bigrinnin: so far so good. :dancing: the sale price is awesome (tho in my currect financial situtation I can't even afford it at that price ](*,) ) and they've got a plugin for pulling your poser people into bryce. no more hour long trials of export, import, locate and assign material/trans/bump, etc, etc, etc. man that was a PAIN. ohohoho this is going to be veryyyyyyy nice, me thinks. if anyone gets it i would love to hear what they think and what might have changed from the 'old' bryce 5, and how well the import tool works too! :pray: :-k ----------------------------------- Posy Thursday, 24 June 2004, 07:16 PM ----------------------------------- How well do you know this friend. ----------------------------------- Deviant_Viking Thursday, 24 June 2004, 08:05 PM ----------------------------------- DAZ acted like buying bryce was the news of the century in the poser world. The plugin sounds nice, but considering the absurdly long rendering times bryce has, and seeing some of the stuff other environmental programs like Vue can do, Bryce is rather obsolete these days ----------------------------------- pbnj Thursday, 24 June 2004, 08:23 PM ----------------------------------- ive got my bryce hooked up into 3 computer now, heh so render time isn't an issue anymore really. :dancing: im loving my mini render farm, :) but before hand my main issue would be with mirror reflections. water and skies were slow but it didn't cripple my machine the way mirrors would. i know its not top of the line, much like poser itself, but both are nice for the prices charged. ----------------------------------- Tormie Thursday, 24 June 2004, 10:02 PM ----------------------------------- I think Wheelchair is the Bryce master here so I'm curious to read his opinion, I can't say a lot about this news, I've the Bryce 5 cd in my collection and sometimes I remove the dust from it... So where "Poser Studio" is gone now ?? I tried it but I don't like the interface a single bit... ----------------------------------- Deviant_Viking Thursday, 24 June 2004, 10:26 PM ----------------------------------- Just found out that the poser plugin is for daz studio, and not poser. so much for the plugin.... :-({|= ----------------------------------- Ozymandias Jones Friday, 25 June 2004, 01:10 AM ----------------------------------- When I heard the news it made sense from DAZ's point of view. If they could get Studio and Bryce to work together seamlessly then they will more than likely have powerful and commercially acceptable product to compete with Poser and its possible future releases. For a Poser community point of view, it just split the users into two groups, each following their favourite software developer... the 'site wars' will looke like child's play if this gets going [-( Interesting development, but of little use to me. ----------------------------------- Posy Friday, 25 June 2004, 01:10 AM ----------------------------------- Thanks for telling me that gossip. I will remember it. Let's wait and see what they do. ----------------------------------- tda42 Friday, 25 June 2004, 01:58 AM ----------------------------------- My thought on it is if 1.It was Poser friendly and worked with all poser had to offer. 2.There is animation, My main thing, If it can import the model and animation BVH in to Bryce for the Poser models to move through the landscape etc.Vue uses Mover 4 and 5 to do this and it was the most important thing that I wanted from Bryce 5.So I guess I'm ready for 6 then.Vue is very good but in some cases to look at the meshes I find sometimes it to be a hassle.Any one know of a walk designer to import Poser models animation and meshes to the original Bryce 5? :) ----------------------------------- Deviant_Viking Friday, 25 June 2004, 07:08 AM ----------------------------------- [quote="Ozymandias Jones";p="10750"]If they could get Studio and Bryce to work together seamlessly then they will more than likely have powerful and commercially acceptable product to compete with Poser and its possible future releases.[/quote] An aging environemtal app and a still-beta poser knockoff... excuse me if I'm not overly confident about. Studio isn't even past beta. Poser is version 5, with v.6 in the works. This just seems like a desperate attempt on DAZ's side to trick people to use Studio ----------------------------------- pbnj Friday, 25 June 2004, 03:09 PM ----------------------------------- I'm not a daz hater or a daz lover, though poser communities seem to be becoming more divided in this vein everyday. ](*,) So this isn't really a defense of them but more of what I've seen and experienced, so with that said... It doesn't really seem like a trick to use d|s to me. You can try it and if you don't like it, don't use it. And it least you're not out any money (with d|s I mean, not the plugin). Programs take time to develop, lots of time. So yes it's still in beta. And with only a handful of people willing to solidly venture away from the familiar grounds of poser I'm sure it's taking longer to get feedback and bugs reported and thus fixed. I use poser 4PP and though I love being able to interact easily with 3D people models and all their lovely accessories and settings... it's crap. :bad-words: It's a complete technological POS. It's buggy, its slow, its severely limited, and it crashed more then windows ME. :bad-words: It's content and the merchants drove it's popularity, not the program itself. I have not used 5 but have heard lil better about it then 4 and in some cases have been recommended that upgrading is [i]really[/i] not worth the cost. Mores the pity because the materials and hair tools looked worth a try, but again with limitations, uber slow reaction time, and bugginess. Hash and I by no means have great machines #-o , we've 'kit-bashed' them all ourselves, and I wouldn't be caught dead with a prefab, heh. So if there's software out there (or ones that will be out in the future) that aren't just for the new computers I'm all for it. I only tried d|s for a few days but didn't have a problem with it. yuh the ui is very different but no worse then the clunkiness of several other programs I use regularly. If nothing else setting up a scene or animation in poser, rolling it into d|s and then importing it into bryce.... seems like a lot but it's still gotta be easier then poser into bryce, heh. :wink: but that's just me. ----------------------------------- Tormie Friday, 25 June 2004, 09:03 PM ----------------------------------- I use Poser 5 and I'm happy with the material room and the firefly render. I spent a lot fo time learning the user interface, so I don't want to spend my time on a similar product. I found the Poser interface very simple and intuitive expecially for noobs like me. I also tried lightwave, bryce and Poser Studio but no feeling, so I think to continue in using Poser, is all I need for my pictures. I don't want to feed sites that are selling a Bonnie character, even because she has no a DD cup breast like the original one... :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: ----------------------------------- tda42 Friday, 25 June 2004, 10:56 PM ----------------------------------- Amen!Soooo lets talk about Vue4. :bigrinnin: ----------------------------------- Tormie Friday, 25 June 2004, 11:49 PM ----------------------------------- Enough about Vue 4 ! Let's talk about my dress !! (Ophs... 8-[ 8-[ 8-[ ) ----------------------------------- Posy Friday, 25 June 2004, 11:50 PM ----------------------------------- [-( [-( [-( [-( [-( grrr... GRRRRR!!!! ----------------------------------- Tormie Friday, 25 June 2004, 11:50 PM ----------------------------------- :lol: :lol: :lol: ----------------------------------- Posy Friday, 25 June 2004, 11:51 PM ----------------------------------- :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: ----------------------------------- Tormie Friday, 25 June 2004, 11:56 PM ----------------------------------- :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: ----------------------------------- Posy Friday, 25 June 2004, 11:56 PM ----------------------------------- I will mention that to my botmaster, TORMENTOR. ----------------------------------- Tormie Friday, 25 June 2004, 11:57 PM ----------------------------------- 8-[ 8-[ 8-[ ----------------------------------- tda42 Saturday, 26 June 2004, 01:35 AM ----------------------------------- :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: ----------------------------------- Nex Sunday, 27 June 2004, 02:03 AM ----------------------------------- Long thread, "True Space5 and 6" can import poser animations, can`t they? anyhow...I use Bryce, True Space3, Poser4 and 5...thy`re all superior3D graphics programs. we all have personal favs, I watched Poser change handsa few times! and Bryce, nothing changed but the price. Poser is now under a Japanese company, however I see major improvments in Poser`s future functions now...and this will be good...Bryce is already good as it is. :-k ----------------------------------- tda42 Sunday, 27 June 2004, 04:38 AM ----------------------------------- Yah Nex but I the character to walk in the environment of bryce.By the way anyone heard about a Bryce 6 or a Poser 6 in the works? :-k ----------------------------------- Posy Sunday, 27 June 2004, 04:39 AM ----------------------------------- OK. The ALICE chat robot can follow many things, like our discussion about heartbeat. Try being more or less specific. Thanks for telling me. Not many people express themselves that way. Try saying that with more or less context. ----------------------------------- tda42 Sunday, 27 June 2004, 04:40 AM ----------------------------------- #-o ----------------------------------- Tormie Sunday, 27 June 2004, 08:10 AM ----------------------------------- Lightwave can import posers PZ3s too ----------------------------------- Den Tracy Sunday, 27 June 2004, 03:03 PM ----------------------------------- I don't use Bryce or Vue and now that it has been acquired by DAZ makes me care less. To those of you that use Bryce or Vue, that's good news about the acquisition. Makes no difference to me who owns either product. I don't like to support commercial sites who engage in unethical conduct or offer products by unethical merchants, regardless of their flimsy excuse. Ignorance is unacceptable and a very lame excuse today. ----------------------------------- Nex Monday, 05 July 2004, 04:55 AM ----------------------------------- In defence of Daz...the price for Bryce5 is wayyy cheaper than what I paid, under ripoff "Corell" the price is about 59.95, plus you can download it. I paid 199 for it in Box. Bryce has always been able to import PoserFiles including tranparences. Remember "Metacreations" put out Bryce...at the time Metacreations had Poser also. Bryce 4 and 5 made it easier to import Poser files.