https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2953
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Tormie
Sunday, 21 October 2007, 09:06 PM

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Hi, please check this short story fron hanzoshinrei

http://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?t=2951&highlight=

(My english is very poor :redface: )

It's all ok ? No porn , pedophilia ?

 :mmmh: I'm having some doubts about hanzoshinrei and maybe he is derailing on renderotica side... But maybe I'm wrong and suspecting too much  :uuh:


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tda42
Sunday, 21 October 2007, 09:26 PM

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I don't know Davide. I looked at this and it was almost gearing up to something and then kind of backed down. The thing with the breast was the most of the story. I think maybe Thilda can look at it. If it doesn't offend her then I think it's ok. Seeing how it is a womans point of view that can help in this matter. But until then I would like to know the reason of Rotica's site. There are so many other sites you can be on. :mmmh:


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Tormie
Sunday, 21 October 2007, 11:27 PM

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Unfortunately I don't have too much time in this period to check the gallery friends... So please if you see something wrong or if you've a doubt please write here , with the link. We've this forum for these kind of things... I'm going to check his gallery now...


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Tormie
Sunday, 21 October 2007, 11:29 PM

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Where is the breast thing ? In the gallery or in the story ? However we should ask Thilda to check one and/or the other one


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TdaC
Monday, 22 October 2007, 11:55 AM

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I have read part 1 of the story that is posted so far. We do not have rules for writing so i am judging the story from the gallery rules. I have not judge by what my personal opinion is lol.

The gallery rules are: Please remember that posting your artworks at Posetteforever is a privilege and not a right. Do not post, upload, or link to images that contain: Excessive gore, Actual or implied sexual acts, Lewd or excessively lascivious actions or displays, Photographs of real people containing nudity, Anything that you do not own the copyright of, Other styles or content that you have been instructed by any staff member of Posetteforever to cease providing., The staff of Posetteforever will determine which pictures are not acceptable and will remove or otherwise dispose of them.


In the part 1 of the story there is not anything sexual... it is sort of implied/suggested but not written clearly. 

The short version of the posted part of the story is that a high school girl gets a package with chinease clothing. She sleeps in the clothing and can't find her real clothes the next day, so she goes to school to take a test while wearing the chinease clothing. Strange things happens in school that day. The test she has to take has pictures of girls in it. She goes home, gets another package with a book and is sucked into another world. So far in that other world someone paints her face, she sees are friend restrained as a prisoner..... and a character touches her breasts. 
There is also talk about a legand of an empress and princess that takes virgins and turn them into dolls.  

I think that so far he has not violated our rules. I think he might violate them in the rest of the story. Like Kenny said u get the feeling that story is going to be sexual. I think our action should be to remind him of the rules. The part of the rules that i think he might break are:

1. Actual or implied sexual acts
2.Lewd or excessively lascivious actions or displays

Then of corse it is also a problem that we don't have rules for writing. So technically at the moment he can't break any rules. Unless he posts a sex pic to go with the story.


I think the breast thing that Kenny talked about is that when the girl is sucked into the other world her body changes. On of the changes is that her breasts get bigger and then a character asks for a kiss but touches her breasts instead.



Now for what i personal think :whistle: The thing i reacted the most to is that he said : 
Ayuza, or Ayu for short was my classmate in high school. I had a crush on her, but she told me she preferred her best friend Alisha ('Sha') to any boy. Mmmh...I miss her a lot. I wrote this story dedicated to her (but I hope she won't come across this! She'll totally kill meee!

To me it sounds like he had a crush on a girl that turned him down and said that she would rather sleep with a girl (her best friend) then him. And that that was the inspiration for a story that seems to be heading to some same sex sexual content. I don't care if he or someone else wants to write gay or straight stories with sex in them, but what i do mind is him writting the name of the girl and the name of the friend and his connection to them.
I know it is a very small chance that she or someone she knows will find out, but there is still a chance. Even though she is not a member here i feel that she - since she is a real person - should be treated with respect.

Writing the name and his relation to the girl in the story (especially if there will be sexual or torture stuff in the story) is something i don't like. He should change the names and remove his connection to her. Especially since he seem to think that she will not like it (i get that feeling from him writing he hope she doesn't find out).


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Whazizname
Sunday, 28 October 2007, 06:02 AM

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Hmmm... somehow I missed this post (and a couple of others...); but I'll offer my opinion now.

The story definitely contains elements of erotica (bondage, helplessness, forced geisha transformation, groping, ...); but since there aren't any site rules about writings like this, I guess it's not a violation of site policy. {I do think that it is inappropriate for Posette Forever; because the only connection to site activities is the most recent image posted to the gallery by it's author.}


I'll also add, that as an "artist" I am uncomfortable "judging", or "censoring" another's creation; but as an experienced educator, and parent, this story seems carefully designed to be just enough within the guidelines.




Well, that's my two cents.
(:


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tda42
Sunday, 28 October 2007, 11:10 AM

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I agree with Whazizname. It is close to the guide lines. But Thilda has a point as well with the personal names. This part needs to be addressed with the person in question. Simply put "in no way is a real persons name be used that can harm, degrade, or slander in any form. Maybe a new rule might need to be put in place here.  :mmmh:


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TdaC
Sunday, 28 October 2007, 12:57 PM

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Hello
I have written the member who wrote the post and asked him to remove the names from  the part written above the synopsis where he explains who the story is about. If that part is not there no one will know about the real names thing. I also told him why the names needs to be romved.

I want to give him the opertunity to edit himself instead of someone of us doing it, it is easier to handle i think for a member to be asked to edit something out, than to have the post edited or removed by staffmembers.


I did not remind him of the rules. I went to check the story again before writing to him and in that forum it states that stories can be erotic, but that if that is the case u have label them as such so that ppl who don't want to read it will know. So even if the story turns out erotic and not just implied as it is now - he would not have broken any rules.

I also told him that the story is creative ( it is not my kind of creativity, but creative none the less) and i also complemented the render in the gallery that goes with it.

I wrote him yesterday, haven't heard back from him yet. Don't know if he has been online.


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tda42
Sunday, 28 October 2007, 01:07 PM

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Sounds good to me Thilda. I guess we have done all we can do without writing another rule. I do think though if we are going to have this kind of story here in the site we should think of some safe guards for later things. I don't know what as of yet but I am sure if we all think about it, we will come up with something that everyone will be happy with. :thumb: Still I think what you did was the best thing to do. :bigrinnin:


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Tormie
Monday, 29 October 2007, 02:31 PM

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Thank you Thilda  :thumb: . About the rules, we can say that the same rules about erotic / porn pictures can be ported to the forum. However the essential "rule" is not to be too "hard" in any sense. Some people begin in this way to find the limit of the site and the start arguing, that was the case of porn guy dphoadley and the "borg" guys ...


