https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1205
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The Mighty Zeus
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 02:55 PM

V3 and M3
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Just in case anyone still needs them DAZ is giving away V3 base and M3 base models away for free.


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Tormie
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 03:11 PM


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Thank you for the info Mighty Zeus !

 :-k It's strange to see a Vicky who is giving it away for free  :-k  :-k  :-k ...


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The Mighty Zeus
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:11 PM


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Well I once knew this girl in college named Vicky.....


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Tormie
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:25 PM


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:bigrinnin: :bigrinnin:  :bigrinnin:


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tda42
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:30 PM


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$80.00 savings. I got it and now Posy will have her way with them. :lmao: 
Have you tried this Vicky 3 to see if the mouth is still the same as you had said Zeus? :-k 
Always can't get enough of a free thing. Thanks for the heads up Zeus. :bigrinnin:


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Posy
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:30 PM


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Where did you get it?


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tda42
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:31 PM


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Ah ha! Here is the girl to chew them up now. :dancing: 
Here Posy, Posy, Posy! :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:


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Posy
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:32 PM


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Eureka!


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tda42
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:33 PM


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See! Their gone! :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :bigrinnin:


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Tormie
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:36 PM


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I'll never betray Posy :x !


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Posy
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:36 PM


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Why not?


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Tormie
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:39 PM


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Because I love you so much honey !!


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Posy
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:39 PM


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Good reason.   			You are such a flatterer.


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Tormie
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:40 PM


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:bigrinnin:  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:  :heartbeat:


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tda42
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:51 PM


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[quote="TORMENTOR";p="17354"]I'll never betray Posy :x ![/quote]

If you flip that ikon upsidedown there Torm it will be smiling. :bigrinnin:


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Posy
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:51 PM


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Let us change the subject.   Are you free?   Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.


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Tormie
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:52 PM


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:lololol: !!!!


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tda42
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 05:52 PM


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No he hasn't flipped the ikon upside down yet. I can't say anything. :wink:


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The Mighty Zeus
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 06:12 PM


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Actually I fixed the problem with my version of vicky. I just had to download a patch for poser 4


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tazman
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 10:02 PM


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Thank you for the information Mighty Zeus.


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Visitor
Thursday, 06 January 2005, 11:48 PM


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Maybe they let us download their precious V3 because they has just finished V4! :-k :-k  :-k


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Poserkatz
Friday, 07 January 2005, 02:20 AM


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Hey Guys.  :) 
And now you can buy many many things for V3 and M3  :bigrinnin: 
Headmorphs - Bodymorphs - Injectbuilder - Clothes - Assecoires.  :lmao: 

Exactly for this reason i've never downloaded Aiko 3...  :whistle: 

I have V3, but i don't use her, because my PC is to small, if i want to move her,
i have to go into the box-modus (you know, the great rectangulars), and if i load
the morphs to give her an expression, i can go for a walk or a coffee to the next
bar - so long is the time for waiste.

If you don't use the INJ-Morphs, V3 is totally boring, nothing more than a doll.
By the way, i think, there are enough "naked Vickis with a sword" out there...  :lol: 

Just my 2 cents to that free daz-download.


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tda42
Friday, 07 January 2005, 02:58 AM


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Hmmm :-k Naked Vickies running around? [-( 
Quick pole dancing at DV's forum ASAP! :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :bigrinnin:


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Poserkatz
Friday, 07 January 2005, 03:03 AM


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:lol:


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Tormie
Friday, 07 January 2005, 08:23 AM


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:lololol: I said some times ago that Vicky is like a Mercedes Benz, the base model has nothing, nor the buttons to raise the glasses, but the accessories list is very long and expensive  :bigrinnin: !!

I agree with pangor, the usual commercial politic of Daz is to give away something for free just before the new model come out ! Anyway it's good to download something for free ! They give some new freebie every wrrk and I'll try the M3 even if my old "knight" is a M2...


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Visitor
Friday, 07 January 2005, 07:55 PM


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Tromentor, it was erenda who stated that suspicion.  However, I do agree with it.  Reguardless of their motives, I am glad to have them available gratis.  I have just downloaded M3 and I am now downloading V3.  I don't know what the base package will contain other than the bald and naked V3 and M3 models; however, that does not matter.  There are plenty of textures, morphs, and clothing floating around for them, much of it also gratis, so they will not me naked for long.  As for their baldness, there plenty of rogaine (hair downloads) for them.

I found out about this offer this morning when I went over to DAZ for a moment.  I immediatly thought of setting up the downloads, and then comming by here to let all of you know of the offer.  As it is I was late in my discovery.   ;-)

Pangor


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Tormie
Friday, 07 January 2005, 11:19 PM


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It's never too late for free stuff  :bigrinnin: !!

I prefer Posette  :heartbeat: and no else !


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 02:35 AM


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I've just dowwnloaded V3 and M3 ! M3's head has no morphs!!! This is the famous Victoria?  :-s I wonder that DAZ ask money for this.  :-k 39.99$ and no morphs? I'll write them an email, an very "polite " email.  :prrr:


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 04:49 AM


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That was pretty much my reaction, when I tested both V3 and M3, compared to Posette and Dork they are almost like statues.  However, I do understand why DAZ did that, they were making a market for the face and the body morph packs.  Out of curiosity, I examined one of the CR2 files.  I found than other than eye morphs and joint controlled morphs and a few like navel gone,  many morph channels most were empty and hidden.  There are a number of facial expressions and gloves, and spandex morphs stored as pose files holding the external morph deltas.

While the mesh is interesting, for body shaping and character making, this offering is pitiful.

I created my Betty character using the the stock Posette model along with a couple of morphs, I could not do that with V3 base.  The morphs were not even needed, to create Betty, they just gave her a little more posing options.

I think that the free Posette derived models could teach a thing of two to V3.  Maybe Tormetor's Posy and my Betty will do just that.  Oh well, the price is right and the mesh does have possibilities.

Pangor


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Posy
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 04:50 AM


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Good then you can explain it to me.


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 05:32 AM


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How can I examine an *.CR2 file?   :-k  Maybe using some text editor? The only thing I like in V3 is the mesh and the texture maps. By the way, is there Posette remapped to take V3 textures ? I have a lot of V3 textures... somewhere. (I downloaded them because I think they were V2 textures.  #-o ) V3 has a million face polygons , so it'll be easy to make some morphs. I think people who made V3 are very good modelers. Well , people who made Posette are excellent modelers , but I can't make a figure like V3.


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 05:57 AM


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Certainly, Posy, you and Betty and the rest of your relatives can beat Viki out of the box any day.

Pangor


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Posy
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 05:57 AM


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Are we in the same category?


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 06:01 AM


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Yes, Posy, you are.

Pangor


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Posy
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 06:01 AM


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Tell me more. No I am not.


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 06:40 AM


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[quote="erenda";p="17464"]How can I examine an *.CR2 file?   :-k  Maybe using some text editor?[/quote]

There are some CR2 editing utilities, one of the main ones is called CR2Edit, there is an older version that that is availble for download.  Try searching Renderosity's for "CR2" and "edit".  Then as you say, you can use a text editor, since CR2, HR2, PP2, etc are text files.  Poser accepts textfiles with both CR/LF (Dos/Windows) and CR (Mac) line terminations so any method you use may have to take into account the different line terminations that you may encounter.  (I have not tried unix new line terminations yet.) 

[quote="erenda";p="17464"]By the way, is there Posette remapped to take V3 textures ?[/quote]

I have found a remapping of Posette to take Victoria textures and the reverse as well.  But that was for V1 and V2, not V3.  Since V3 is a unimesh model her native texture maps are not compatible with the way that V1 and V2 are mapped.  There may be a posette remap for unimesh trextures; however, so far I have not found it.  

[quote="erenda";p="17464"]I think people who made V3 are very good modelers. Well , people who made Posette are excellent modelers , but I can't make a figure like V3.[/quote]

They are the same people more or less.  Metacreations, who owned Poser when Poser 4 was first release and contracted with Zygote to make the P4 models.  Zygote also make V1 and M1.  Zygote, then spun off their department that had  produced those models.  That spin off became DAZ.

Pangor


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 07:36 AM


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Thank alot!!! :dancing:  :dancing:  :dancing:  :dancing:  :dancing:


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 08:58 AM


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You are welcome.

Pangor


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ahjah
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 10:33 AM


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Hi all
A good text editor is the most important tool on every PC

The one, I use is called Proton and is an open source Project
It has advanced search and replace and you can choose the way of line termination (win, mac, unix)
It´s at: http://www.meybohm.de/

another good one with the additional option of file comparison (very helpful)
at: http://www.pspad.com/

both freeware, of course :biggrin:


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Visitor
Saturday, 08 January 2005, 03:45 PM


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Thanks ahjah.

I have never found any that I felt comfortable with under Windows.  Currently my two favorite text editors are joe and vi with pico bringing up the rear.  But I and not too sure about the versions of those editors that have been ported to Windows, and I don't use Windows enough for anything other than games and art to make it practicle to overlay Windows with unix compatibility code.

Thank You.
Pangor


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Visitor
Friday, 04 March 2005, 05:53 PM


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By the way, does somebody know where can I download the V3 low poly mesh? I couldn't find it on the DAZ website, but it looks good. :-k


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Tormie
Friday, 04 March 2005, 06:06 PM


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I think that the time is passed for the weekly free download there and I never downloaded them  :dancing: ...

( Can someone help erenda  :whistle: ? )


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Visitor
Friday, 04 March 2005, 08:31 PM


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The low poly version of V3 is provided for free as a part of the base contents for DAZ Studio, but it is in Studio's format and can not be used with Poser.  For the remainder of this year, the full resolution base version of both V3 and M3 are available from DAZ as almost free downloads.  They are free but rather being included on the free downloads page, they are in their regular store pages listed at full price with a 100% discount.  Therefore, you would have to go through the purchase process.  For download, yor total cost will be zero, if you want them to ship you a copy on CD, then their normal shipping fees will be charged.  Without purchasing several addon packages, the full versions of V3 and M3 are not a useful as the reduced resolution versions.

If anyone knows of a link for a legal, free download of V3RR useable in Poser, I also would appreciate the information.

Pangor


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tda42
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 01:14 AM


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That is strange because I am using All V3 and M3s in Poser 4 and 5 and they work perfectly. :-k


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Tormie
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 01:30 AM


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(off topic): :-k  :-k  :-k That tail doesn't move anymore...


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Visitor
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 03:10 AM


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(off topic #2) Yes , I didn't noticed.  #-o


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Visitor
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 08:46 AM


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[quote="tda42";p="19242"]That is strange because I am using All V3 and M3s in Poser 4 and 5 and they work perfectly. :-k[/quote]

I am referring to that without their face morph packs and body morph packs, they can not be used to make character as you can with a stock P4NF and P4NM.  The V3RR that I came I got as part of the base content for DAZ Studio, came with more builtin morphs than the full resolution V3 Base.

Pangor


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tda42
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 01:26 PM


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Ah yes! I see what your saying now. Your right but its just there way of nailing the lid on the coffin. Buy some of it and have to use it all. I think too it may be because it is still in the experiment stage with Studio that they have put a little more to check out the bugs for the 1.0. I am not sure but just for the record do you know if it can transfer animation with Poser information from Daz/Studio to Bryce as of yet? Or another question can you transfer Bryce into Daz/Studio? :-k


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TdaC
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 07:53 PM


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off topic - kenny why isn't your tail moving?? :-k


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tda42
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 10:29 PM


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My tail? :-s  MY TAIL! 8-[  (Kenny runs around frantically like a puppy looking for lost tail).........I have been hacked. :crybaby: My little Chi has had it's tail hacked. :crybaby:  Oh sure all of you have your tail but what about me? I am bob tailed. :crybaby:  (Kenny goes to look for a used clothes hanger for a substitute.) #-o  Thank you Thilda. :bigrinnin:  At least Sooooomebody saw it missing. :lmao:


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TdaC
Saturday, 05 March 2005, 11:01 PM


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ahhhh, but Kenny we notice everything about everyone :dancing:


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Poserkatz
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 12:37 AM

oha
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[quote="TdaC";p="19266"]ahhhh, but Kenny we notice everything about everyone :dancing:[/quote]

...big tdac is watching you...


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Visitor
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 03:43 AM


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[quote="tda42";p="19253"]do you know if it can transfer animation with Poser information from Daz/Studio to Bryce as of yet? Or another question can you transfer Bryce into Daz/Studio? :-k[/quote]

Sorry, I have only made a few simple animations, and I have not tried moving them from one program to another.  As far as I know, the only Bryce to Studio transfers that work reliably (most of the time) are those items that are exported from bryce as Wavefront objects and image files, I suppose.

Pangor


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tda42
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 03:51 AM


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Thanks Pangor. I had the mover for Bryce to import Poser models from Daz/Studio to Bryce but never heard if an animation was possible to export with the Poser character. :)


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Visitor
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 04:04 AM


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For transfers from Poser or Studio to Bryce, I have been using Grouper.  For some Poser figures it helpful to import the PZ3/PZZ into Studio, when Studio is working, and export it as an OBJ and then use Grouper to tidy things up a bit.  For situation where Studio had trouble, I will export the OBJ from Poser and pass it through Grouper.


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Tormie
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 09:41 PM


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Grouper  :-? ? What is it ? (I never used seriously bryce)


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guiltypleasures
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 10:19 PM


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(off topic) 

GP runs over and "gropes" Tormie and then quickly hides in the closet  :bigrinnin:  :dancing:


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Visitor
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 10:44 PM


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Grouper is a utility that read wavefront OBJ file and their matching MTL files.  It will examine the textures used and regroup the object so that all parts of the model that use a single texture will be grouped together.  This is very handy when sending a model from Poser to Bryce, because for example, in Bryce you will now have only a single group that contains all the parts of the model that use a skin texture rather than having to deal with hip, abdomen, chest, right shoulder, etc. rather.  Grouper will also rewite the mtl so that references to a BUm file will be replace with a reference to a BMP or JPG file.  The latter versions can also fix some problems in an OBJ file and it can also gather the texture maps that a model uses together from where Poser or other software has them into a single directory; that way if you place the new obj and mtl files into the same directory, Byrce will be able to find the texture maps without you having to manually locate each of them for Bryce.  Alse the names that groups used for material groups are nicer to work with than how Poser exports them.

My pet peeve with Poser exports that grouper can not fix, is that Poser will not export tranmap details into the MTL file.  But thanks to the work grouper has already done, it is much more easy to fix within Bryce than if grouper had not been used.

It is available as freeware and you can download a copy from its tutorial page on its home website, "Cast Iron Flamingo": http://www.castironflamingo.com/tutorial/grouper/index.html  This page is a tutorial but is mostly an explaination of the benefits of the program, the page also has the download links for both versions 1.3 and 1.4r1.

Pangor


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Tormie
Sunday, 06 March 2005, 11:19 PM


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Thank you pangor  :bigrinnin: !


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Ozymandias Jones
Thursday, 24 March 2005, 02:50 PM


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I think I prefer GP's version  :bigrinnin: 

But I'll leave Tormie alone  #-o 

 :lmao:


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Visitor
Thursday, 24 March 2005, 09:51 PM


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;-)


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Tormie
Friday, 25 March 2005, 12:12 AM


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Who "groped" me ?  :x 

(Bubba ?  8-[  8-[  8-[ )


