https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=2607
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PitKlad
Wednesday, 22 November 2006, 10:04 PM

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Someone was asking about Dork mike skin...
So I was thinking about making a version of Domus with Mike 1-2 skin...
Is anyone interested?
Would you find that usefull?  :mmmh: 
Maybe I'll add some more bodymorphs too and already working a new face morph!
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Tormie
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 12:05 AM

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Dear Pitklad, a new Dork is very welcome. Actually I've not a project involving a Dork, but it can be in the future ! And here at PF the users prefers him, you can look at Janreinar, Alcide and other galleries, are all made with Dorks. If you can improve oure beloved P4people please do it  :grin: . People interested in it are not thousands and thousand, but it's the same for posetteforever, it doesn't mean that we're not having fun even if we're few :yeah:  !


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Posy
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 12:05 AM


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Humans are not always infallible.


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Tormie
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 12:06 AM

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:redface: :redface: :redface:


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JanReinar
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 12:58 PM

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I agree with Davide any improvement on Dork is very welcome! :)


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A_C_C
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 05:10 PM

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Very good idea!


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PitKlad
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 07:53 PM

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Thanks for the encouragement everyone!
I just finished the NEW head morph!
I hope you like Domus new face!
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Tormie
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 09:35 PM

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:thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:  :grin:


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Posy
Thursday, 23 November 2006, 09:35 PM


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I just don't understand.


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Tormie
Friday, 24 November 2006, 02:31 AM

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I said to PitKlad that I like what he is doing :)


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ahjah
Friday, 24 November 2006, 02:33 PM

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Looks all very interesting, indeed.
A Domus with M-mapping would not be of much use for me personally, because I will not get it working in my old poser 3. It allows only one map per obj , so I'd prefer a version with standard mapping. But the new head, especially the eyeshape looks really handsome :thumb:
Great job.


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A_C_C
Friday, 24 November 2006, 04:00 PM

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PitKlad could make two versions of Domus, one with the standard Dork mapping and other with Mike skin.


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Posy
Friday, 24 November 2006, 04:00 PM


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What you said was either too simple for me.


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PitKlad
Friday, 24 November 2006, 04:35 PM

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It will be easy to have 2 versions of Domus since I will use a UVS file to alter his mapping  :grin: 
Actually I used AprilYSH version of Dork with Mike skin and corrected some points on the brows to look better  :wink:

So I'll just make a step by step instructions to make the Dork version or include a .cr2 stripped of morphs [i](for smaller size)[/i] as alternative solution

The new thing I am thinking for Domus 2.6 will be a different genital switch so that there will not be a need to have a version of a morph for the genitals hip and one for the non genitals hip... There will be only one hip and the genitals will turn off  :wink:  [i](those who make  morphs will have less trouble this way)[/i]

Also I'll add some body morphs since the previous Domus  didn't have any  :whistle: 

A basic texture is in the plans also   :crazyeyes: 

The new head shape will be a morph so Domus will be completely compatible with older characters  :wink: 
Same with the body all the changes will be made with morphs and some improvements on the joints  :grin:
Domus will be more combatible with Dork than Nea was to Posette  :grin:


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Tormie
Friday, 24 November 2006, 08:20 PM

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I'll trust you because it's too technical for poor Tormie :redface: !


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PitKlad
Wednesday, 13 December 2006, 01:19 AM

Body Morphs Preview
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ok!  :wink: 
So here are two types of body shapes that use the new Domus body morphs!
I tryed to cover pretty much the whole body...  :mmmh: 
I can send you a cr2 for test and suggestion about things that I might have forgot...  :bigrinnin: 

 :grin:


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ahjah
Wednesday, 13 December 2006, 02:51 AM

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:thumb: I like it, looks interesting! :)


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Tormie
Wednesday, 13 December 2006, 04:33 AM

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I want it ! >STOMP!<  :grin:


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rayera
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:19 AM

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Wow!! thank you Pitklad for your work, it looks fantastic, Nea (both of them) are my prefered female characters, and now it looks as a big improvement for the old P4M the idea of a M2 UVs and a P4M UVs is great, your last picture really sugest me a lot of ideas for making superheros, unfortunately latelly I haven't much time to play with poser or DS; just a sugestion, if it would be posible could you add some empty INJ chanels to be able to do some full body morphs with Poser Little Helper? Nea have some nice morphs in the body but poor Domus don't, the morphs you show are fantastic


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Posy
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:19 AM


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I'm glad your impressed, rayera.


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rayera
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:26 AM

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and I'm glad you are glad Posy  :grin:


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Posy
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:26 AM


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Yes it is about time.


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PitKlad
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 02:09 AM

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Thanks rayera!

Actually there is an update... I'll make a .cr2 version of Domus with P4M mapping and an encoded version with Mike2 mapping (which will have the new face shape as default)

I've finished the body morphs at last!!! (65-70)

And now I'm working the head morphs... 30 new nose morphs till now...  :grin: 

Mike UVS still need work on the head and a tetxure is almost ready (I use it on the previews here)  :grin: 

I'll add empty channels on Domus  but not planning on an injection version :wink:  I don't know how poser Little Helper works... does it need those empty delta channels to have a certain name or anything will do?

Please people if you have anything! ANYTHING that you would like to see on Domus just suggest it! I want it to be as complete as possible  :grin:


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PitKlad
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 02:26 AM

D29_beta
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this is the cr2 containig the body morphs

I don't know the limit of the uploads  :whistle: 

I'll give it a try to upload it...

It uses standar Dork obj so except the alternative geometry everything else will work  :wink:

Please leave comment and suggestions about other body morphs you would like to see  :grin:

The Attachment is too big.
Max Size: 400 KB

ok so I guess I can't upload it here...

Try the link:

[url=http://rapidshare.com/files/8079592/D29_beta.zip.html]Rapid share Download link

 :wink:


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Posy
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 02:29 AM


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I spent some time in Canada as a child.


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rayera
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 02:42 AM

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Pitklad:
For the inj chanels anything will work like MIC_01 , MIC_02, etc or INJ_01 , INJ_02 just put in the read me the name you used and how many you did, Poser little helper makes the files you need for INJ/REM poses after making the full body morph in a modeling aplication, it's very easy to use and save a lot of time, so for the same reason it's a great idea to have only one geometry for the hip  :thumb:  . I like the feet stoking morph. Just hope not to have with him the problems I have with Nea V2 in Daz Studio.
Thank you.


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Tormie
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 06:16 AM

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@ Pitklad , I merged the two topics :) and here is the file


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PitKlad
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 06:42 AM

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Thanks Tormie  :thumb: 

I hope the file works ok for you!

Rayera what problems Nea has on Daz studio?  :eh: 

Does it has to do with alternate geometry?

I'm waiting your comments & suggestions!  :wink:


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ahjah
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:08 PM

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Got it! :grin: 
Now got to test it! :dance: 
Thanks a lot :thumb:


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Posy
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:08 PM


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Try asking the Milk Mystic.


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PitKlad
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:58 PM

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If you would like to see any kind of Body morph that you would like Domus to have just tell me
I'll do my best to make it! I want it to be as complete as possible!

Who is Milk Mystic Posy  :mmmh:


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Posy
Tuesday, 19 December 2006, 01:58 PM


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I hope you get it to be as complete as possible.


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rayera
Wednesday, 20 December 2006, 02:32 AM

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Thanks Pitklad, the morphs are perfect, works good in poser but don't load in Daz Studio, some creatures morphs would be great, like body alien or ork or a humpback (is this the correct word?  :doh:  ) maybe a mucled full body morph and a more anime body shape and face morph, a no ears, a no nose, and a no mouth morph... just sugestions I don't know if they are posible  :whistle: .
About Nea V2 UVs in Daz Studio: I post here some pictures of the problem, can you see the cracks in some groups divitions specially in the neck and in the hip?, as you can see that problem doesn't exist in Nea P4, it happend in all light conditions and with all textures and materials, one is a render using IBL AO and the other is the OpenGL viewport.

Thanks again for your work!!!


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PitKlad
Sunday, 24 December 2006, 12:19 AM

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hmmm this looks quite strange...
I don't have Daz studio... It looks like the UVS has problems too!!!  :eh: 

Thanks for the suggestions about Domus! I'll try for those morphs you said!!!  :wink: 

I need inspiration at this point!  :grin:


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PitKlad
Friday, 12 January 2007, 08:58 PM

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Hello eveyone!
Here are some more previews
An alien full body morph and a monkey head morph
Now I still have to do the Ork head morph, there is already an ork nose morph  :grin: 
As for the humpback... I googled the word and it gives me whales  :mmmh: 
Also I made a try for no ears,mouth or nose but it looks pretty hard... Maybe I'll try again at the end  :whistle: 
Also if you have an image of a specific morph you would like show it  :wink: 

more to come soon  :grin:


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Tormie
Friday, 12 January 2007, 09:32 PM

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:grin: He looks great PitKlad  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:


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ahjah
Friday, 12 January 2007, 10:39 PM

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:shocked!:  :crazyeyes:  :shocked!: 
These are amazing, can't wait to try them :notworthy:


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tda42
Saturday, 13 January 2007, 09:13 AM

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PitKlad you never stop amazing me on this work of yours. Maybe one day you could give us a tutorial
on just how to make these characters. Your work does not go unnoticed. Thank you on be half of myself and everyone that has a drive to always making something a little better.  :thumb:


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rayera
Wednesday, 24 January 2007, 08:48 PM

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Fantastic morphs, specially the alien one, can't wait to use it, thank you for your consideration  :notworthy: 
please don't forget the anime morph, I allways wanted a low poly Hiro  :grin:  I have some old morph from japanese sites but no one that good and besides all are only head morphs not body.
About the humback, probably it's not the right word,  :eh: my english dictionary is not very clear about it, in spanish we say JOROBA probably in your lenguage sound similar, anyway I attatch a picture hope it help.
About the no ears no nose and no mouth morphs, I was able to do the no ears and the no nose easylly with Zbrush but the no mouth is very hard that's why I asked it  :oops: 
Thanks a lot for your great work  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:


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Tormie
Wednesday, 24 January 2007, 09:17 PM

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Yep, it would be a nice morph! expecially because Domus has a morph for bigger hand ! One could do very strange characters :grin:


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PitKlad
Wednesday, 24 January 2007, 09:17 PM

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rayera there is already an upper back body morph that when making it 2 it can look as the image...
However there should be more posing and still it can't look exactly like your image... 
I made a try for no nose morph and the best I could do is in the image
If you would like to share your morphs I would be very happy to include them on Domus  :wink:


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 12:49 AM

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Of course Pitklad, I made the morphs as a test on standard P4 male, but just tell me if it's OK or I should do them on the Domus head you provided for testing :thumb:


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Posy
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 12:49 AM


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It goes without saying.  Perhaps I'm just expressing my own concern about it.


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PitKlad
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 12:57 AM

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Nope you don't have to make it for Domus any Dork morphs will work fine.
I have worked more on the head so the head on the beta version isn't the final  :wink: 
I would be very glad to include those morphs or any other morph anyone has made for Dork to Domus as soon as it looks ok with th new shape  :grin:


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 03:15 PM

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OK here is the No ears and No nose morphs, they work fine with the standard P4male but not that good with the Domus morph on, maybe you Pitklad can fix it  :) 
The picture show the allmost no mouth morph too, I think it looks good but is not a no mouth at all.


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 03:22 PM

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Well I post the No mouth morph too, maybe it's usefull the way it its for you Pitklad or maybe somebody can fix it.


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PitKlad
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 06:23 PM

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rayera you are right!
The morphs look weird on Domus... I hoped at least for the ear one but even that doesn't work...
I also use Zbrush but I couldn't come even close to your results... Which tool did you used?
Especially the ear morphs completely unwraps it... How can you do that  :mmmh: 
I it isn't to complicated or a secret could you tell?  :grin:


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 07:47 PM

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I'll show you the process, it just take 5 minutes, it's a real honor for me to teach you something  :oops:  :oops: 

Width the Draw tool selected just press the SHIFT key, note that the pointer tourn blue and aply it over the ear


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 07:50 PM

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You'll end with it, you'll see a little bulge in the midle of the ear zone, too many vertices has gone to point


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 07:54 PM

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With the move tool stretch the vertices out


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 07:59 PM

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And smooth again with the Draw tool selectod with the SHIFT key using little touches, probably you'll need to use  Draw tool with ALT key (Zsub) with a small z intensity value too


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Posy
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 07:59 PM


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There's someone behind you.


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 08:03 PM

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I'm shure you allready know it but the P4 figures are not quite simetrical, so the x symetry transform will not allways be a full help and maybe you'll ned to do some touches with it tourned off in the end.
Hope  I've been clear enough  :grin:


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PitKlad
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 08:19 PM

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Wow!!!
Yhank you so much for the tutorial!
You are great!
some questions :
What difference makes the shift key? What is the difference of the blue color?
And also how you made Zbrush look so sharp... my always gets blurry when I zoom on my obj  :eh: 
Is there any option to make the wireframe look more clear?


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rayera
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 09:05 PM

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The Shift key put the Draw tool in smooth mode, its very versatile since you don't have to tourn it on on the menu and after use it tourn it off again in the menu like tha ALT key for Z sub the oposite of the draw tool, just release the key and you are in draw mode again, very fast, the blue cursos, I think is just the visual feed back to show you it's in smooth mode  :mmmh: 
To Zoom in and out don't zoom the document, zoom the object, the shortcut key is: ALT + click on an empty space of the document, release ALT then drag up and down, don't be afraid the geometry of your object won't be scaled  :thumb: 
Hope it help you, and I'm not great  :snooty:  just tall (1.95 m, 80 kg)  :grin:  :grin:


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PitKlad
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 09:34 PM

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Oh yes you are the greatest!!!  :grin: 
And too tall also!  :grin: 
I have been using Zbrush all this time but always had that problem!
I thought the other zoom scales the obj too  :whistle: 
Your infos will make working much easiest!
Thanks again! Your examples are very usefull :thumb: 
I'll give it a try on those morphs as soon as the final head shape is ready
 :wink: 
more previews soon!
 :grin:


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Tormie
Thursday, 25 January 2007, 09:50 PM

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:clap:  :clap:  :clap:


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JanReinar
Friday, 26 January 2007, 01:05 AM

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Thanks for the tut rayera!  :notworthy:  :notworthy:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:


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ahjah
Friday, 26 January 2007, 02:37 AM

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Hi friends!
Sorry for joining in this late :oops: 
I have been working with zBrush2 for creating morphs for Posette quite a while and am using a similar technique as rayera for smoothing down ( made a noNose for Posette some time ago and used it on my dino head for her excessively, both in our freebies). The only difference, I don't stretch the collapsed facets manually, I simply use the standard drawing tool to blow up this area again before the next smoothin steps, though I don't think it is possible to make the mouth disappear completely cos you cannot "close" the mesh. The geometry would have to be changed for this, and the morph would not work. In general I think you should use an already modified Domus head to create the morphs on and not the stock Dork for getting the best results.
Unfortunally, after reinstalling zBrush to my new computer I got some weeks ago,it refuses to accept my licence key ](*,) , so i cannot work with this great program no more and have to learn an other modeller before joining in some serious morphing again :roll: I really miss it.
:thumb: great work on the old boy, anyway! Can`t wait to see the results :grin:


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rayera
Friday, 26 January 2007, 04:01 AM

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Ahjah I've seen the no mouth morph in an old version of a character called Adam from Sixus1, So I thought it was posible,  I must search in my bad catalogued old CDs and try to find him to see how it was done  ](*,)  a hard tast believe me  :oops: , but now that I think beter probabli the inner mouth coul be used to fill the hole  :mmmh:  I'll try it tomorrow, now it's late in this side of the world.


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ahjah
Friday, 26 January 2007, 07:43 AM

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I'm afraid, the inner mouth of Dork is a separate piece of mesh like the teeth and the lashes are, and not completely connected to the head mesh, but maybe it is possible to replace the lips via geometry switch similar to the one for the genitals :mmmh:


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Posy
Friday, 26 January 2007, 07:43 AM


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Not literally afraid, right? Why?  What are your goals in life?


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ahjah
Saturday, 03 February 2007, 03:02 AM

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Hi all!
Just uploadet a new face morph for the old guy!
Preview -> http://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?p=34688#34688
Feel free to use him for your project :grin:


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PitKlad
Wednesday, 07 February 2007, 11:35 AM

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ahjah thanks so much for your kind offer!!! This morph makes dork look great!!!
I'm afraid that Dork morphs don't work so well with Domus because of the new shape, I'll try to make a reverse morph to make Domus head as Dork...
However body morphs should work fine


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BastBlack
Monday, 23 April 2007, 07:28 PM

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Domus 2.6 looks very nice!  ^^
Is it available for download?  Thanks.


bB


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PitKlad
Thursday, 26 April 2007, 07:51 PM

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Domus 2.6 is still a wip
But since I'll be for 9 months withut a pc (due to army) I don't think I have the time to finish him
I may give the current state of WIP as a beta  :wink:  but the final version will come in 10 months  :grin:


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Tormie
Thursday, 26 April 2007, 08:36 PM

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:sad:


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BastBlack
Thursday, 26 April 2007, 09:44 PM

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Oh okay.  Stay safe.


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Posy
Thursday, 26 April 2007, 09:44 PM


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Yeah that's right. OK with me too.


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PitKlad
Thursday, 26 April 2007, 09:55 PM

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Thanks!
I will probably make the current WIP available! 
I'll keep this post uptaded on when  :wink:


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Tormie
Monday, 24 March 2008, 01:23 PM

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You mentioned Domus 3 , Any progress :droll: ? :D


