https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2030&p=30085#p30085 ----------------------------------- Visitor Wednesday, 29 March 2006, 07:12 PM ----------------------------------- in the rules we have: [quote]Posetteforever takes no responsibility for the content of any of the messages and pictures posted in the forums/album or of the authenticity of its authors. All opinions and views expressed in the forums are solely those of their respective authors and are not necessarily those of Posetteforever or its representatives.[/quote] This statement and other like it are in the rules and TOS of most forums and even the old BBS systems from before the growth of the internet. But it is not as binding as it sounds. It will protect us in the case of an argument between two members. It will not protect Posetteforever or any of us from in the case of illegal activity by any of our members or guests when they post that information (including images) at Posetteforever. If it were an serious enough issue or could be made to seem to be to the public; as the activities of dph here thus far and what is has stated that he wishes to do can be so made to look. If those activities were permitted to continue, Davide could expect a knock on the door by people with no humor. The site could be shutdown and the data, and other materials taken and find himself as a defendant in court. And who knows how many of us too could expect that knock on the door. In a situation like that, even if Davide wins in court. PF would have been lost, reputations ruined, and who know what else. Why did so few BBS system fail to survive the transition to the internet? One of the reasons is the issues like this. The danger of leaving images that violate the copyright laws on-line here is that even if it is stored in the closed to the general public testing gallery, it is here. While we are reviewing it and debating the fate of the image, a search could be performed by law enforcement officals (at the host site) and when the image is found the knocks on the door would soon follow. What could alert them to doing the search in the first place? A tip by a disgruntled member who is offering "state evidence" and so is protected, even if he is the one who uploaded the picture. Has this ever happened? Many times, I remember a number of BBS systems lost this way and their sysops doing time in jail for having such material on their board. Even when the material was in the invisible unchecked uploads category and it was uploaded that very day by the person who reported its existence on the BBS. Preventing that possibility from happening once again and this time to Posetteforever, Davide, and us; is what I meant by taking actions to protect this site. I would have referred to handle those pictures using the method that we worked out for questionable picture. But for safety, they had to go, and go quickly. The two deleted images contained copyright law violations. One picture was by contained some of his Poser characters and textures created from real people and using their names, without their permission or the permission of the copyright holder of the source images. One of these was his Olga character, who was made, including her texture maps, from the direct images that as he has said publicly that he acquired of her via illegally. The other picture was uploaded as an intended slap in the face to us. It was also another copyright law violation. It was a rendered picture of a planet with other planets in the background and a cloudy starfield behind that. It showed a level of skill that did not agree with his other works. So what? People have different styles etc. The problem was that it was not his picture, it was a picture that I first saw as a book cover in the late 1980s. Latter I saw the same picture as a computer graphic, it was a promotional image for ether Vivid (or was it for VanceRay?) both are now forgotten raytracers. Either way, it is an image that I saw at that time signed by the artist with her copyright. This copy was cropped to exclude that information. He placed it in the Model Beauty of the Week Gallery and titled it "Not Nude Vickie In A Temple With A Sword." If this was not the same picture, it certainly was a perfect imitation, and considering DPH's other problems with respecting copyright laws, I thought it was best to protect Posetteforever by deleting the image right away. Now off I go to find those deleted links.