https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=3735&p=43509#p43509 ----------------------------------- Tormie Wednesday, 18 January 2012, 12:45 AM Re: Another Leahman picture ----------------------------------- This is the reason why we should not even talk about politic and religion on PF . First of all it is totally useless, it's a waste of time. we take the religion of the place where we are born or the family that gave us birth. For only few religion is a free choice and for very few of them into this circle it really mean "religion". Religion is a matter of faith, faith can't be discussed so two individuals with a different religions and truely believeing in their respective faiths have only two chances: not talking about religion, talking of something else, or talk about religion and fight. Now, here, we're fighting. This is why this place is the only one where religion or non-religion can't be discussed, it can be discussed elsewhere, maybe on some battlefield, that is not my businness. I'm not going to ban leahman, anyway he is trouble. I know the man very well, he is not a bad man but there is no way to come to term with him, there are not compromises, he is right, God is on his side giving him directions, the rest of the humanity is donkey. There is no alternative, there is not another solution. Today I deleted the picture, tomorrow, on the next one, I'll simply do what I did in the past: I'll comment the picture out, he can't simply win the game because only few of what he writes about history is accurate. Even that Shligruber or the family name of Adolf Hitler before he was recognized by his father is illogical. War is simply a dirty matter, the normal people are the ones that fight it, if the normal people could talk like we talk, there would be no wars. But everyone is glued to their believing and they never realise how much they are controlled by someone else. I am not a patriot, but it is my choice, people like Robert confuse the fact that I was in the special corps with patriotism and when I say that I did it only for my own (sick) amusement they don't understand, like when I say that I did something good not because was written in thousands years old book but because it was simply the right thing to do. Without the patriotism and religion I was considered difficult to control during the army time, because I could even refuse an order, I would have never fired to a civilian (because it's not sport) and maybe turn the weapon against the one that gave the order, but normally the soldiers, whatever is the country, do it without problems, they are justified by their ministers and by their country because they are with the right God and with the right Flag. There is a specific difference between Janreinar's pictures and Robert's picture (and even Alcide's), they are representation of a historycal event, leahman's pictures are the glorification of one side, on one side is all white, on the other side is all black. Unfortunately the real history is not like that, and I know some of it. There are contradictions everywhere, it's not so simple. I don't even want to talk about it, in any case, that leahman's picture trespassed the level of the historical documentation falling into taking a party, and a party is politic. It's very late here, I need to sleep. Don't worry Kenny, Robert won't be banned, I'll take care of him from now on.