https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=4084&p=45777#p45777 ----------------------------------- Nik Saturday, 10 September 2022, 05:02 PM MoRe: I Want A Hole In My Mirror !!! ----------------------------------- I found a classic (2010) freebie 'oval mirror' on DA (free membership) by Kethaera https://www.deviantart.com/kethaera/art/Oval-Mirror-Prop-174969873 It has both Poser and DS PP2 / setup / materials, plus a stand-alone OBJ for DIY. No associated MTL, but only frame and glass materials to hand-set. I imported the OBJ to Poser, at ~a third of figure height. Scaled it locally, perched it on a 'primitive' box as stand. Made a white 1024x1024 JPG in Irfan View, applied that per 'Reflect' above. Hard part was aligning mirror so it showed [b][i]anything [/i][/b]but empty scene. After 'guesstimating' using 'Top Camera', I still had to adjust yRotate a degree at a time to nudge into view. Remember, reflection swings by [b][i]twice [/i][/b]mirror's turn... Eventually my many small area renders coaxed scene to compliance. At that point, I switched render settings from my twin-GPU cards to CPU only, dialled pixel samples from 14 to 96, vols+buckets down from GPUs' preferred 1024 to CPU's 96, sent job to 'Box' where it ran in ~50 mins...