https://www.posetteforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4165&p=45984#p45984 ----------------------------------- Endosphere Monday, 08 December 2025, 11:36 PM Re: Notable Posettes Of Yesteryear ----------------------------------- Thanks for the source link, Dolly13. Black Canary really was a very nice Posette for her own time, and I think any Posette fan will want to take a look at her just out of curiosity. *** As this is about history, I want to clarify something I wrote in discussing the Black Canary model. Some people (mostly two guys named Torino and Hellborn) unsatisfied with Posette's intimate anatomy came up with a figure called Evolution Eve. Eve superficially looked like Posette but used a radically different geometry and limb/posing structure (later adopted by Zygote figures such as Mike and Victoria). The figure was popularized by Traveler, who had a famous and popular website for P4 people morphs and modifications. Some people (mostly those making erotica imagery) embraced Eve immediately, but others remained loyal to Posette, mostly for the reasons I mentioned (difficulty in posing Eve, lack of clothing fits for Eve). In the end a guy called NdYVO4 made a compromise figure called P4WWG, which kept the Eve hip (including the genitalia) but otherwise restored all of Posette's original geometry. Like the original Eve, this third model was also popularized by Traveler at his famous website. Later, a guy called Arduino advanced further modifications to P4WWG, and most people who still use P4WWG today probably use the Arduino version (one famous variant toward the end of P4 days was named 'Sophia'). So Black Canary was an intermediate figure on the Eve tree between Eve and P4WWG, restoring the original Posette's upper body (abandoned by Eve), but keeping Eve's lower half. When P4WWG came later came along, Posette's original legs were also restored, so only the hip of Eve remained. As that addressed the problem of clothing Eve (for those still on the fence about Posette vs Eve), the Black Canary approach became obsolete, and that's probably why she was never seen again. At least I think that's how it all went down in those days. I never much used Eve or P4WWG, as I was always satisfied with regular Posette. So the main guides I have in these matters are just fading memories, as many old files in my P4 archives don't include any documentation or authorship info. *** By all means if anyone has additional info or fond memories of any models discussed in this thread, join in and tell us all about it. :yeah: