Poser11 Pro .... A Big Jump From P4 !!


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Post My Head Hurts...

#31  Nik 25 Jul 2017 13:55

If you're wondering why one post says "Hey, I'll just copy the culled P3 run-time to an 'external' folder !!", and the next mutters, "Must untangle the zips"...

Less than half of that P3 Runtime's classic freebies were actually *functional*, and many didn't link to their textures etc. Just don't ask where their accessories and *their* textures got to...

Alas, too many didn't fit well as AD/MD, V 1/2/3, P3F and Posette (P4F) outfits were all mixed up. Not helping that many early artists didn't even mention which figure was their base. Hey, if a freebie had poke-through, you just dialled it a bit...

{ Let's not discuss fun sets needing PCF vs P3F beyond saying I'm so glad I've kept a P3 run-time with Metacreations' original, lo-res figures... }

I reckon I'm going to be *very familiar* with CR2 internals by the time this is done !!

And, then, of course, I'll be able to fire up XD4 to craft a really fun retro-wardrobe for Posette & Co...
 



 
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Post Re: Poser11 Pro .... A Big Jump From P4 !!

#32  Chromium 25 Jul 2017 18:01

So if we all sneak our messed up content into Nik's, he can figure them all out.
 




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Post Re: Poser11 Pro .... A Big Jump From P4 !!

#33  ahjah 25 Jul 2017 21:23

Thanks for all the information Nik. Even if I don't comment on every post, I read them all and find them very interesting.
My serious start with Poser was a Cover P3, too. I played a bit with P2 before, but that doesn't count.
There are some of that area backup CDs in my drawer as well. I didn't check them since years.
Maybe I'll have a look at them (if they read still) as it doesn't stop raining

P.S.: I remember a script around, for "translating" Japanese files, but I don't quite remember where to get it and if it would work in P11P, if it worked at all.
About old .rsr files. The ones that contain thumbnail data you can keep or delete after first load. png thumbnail should be crated by P11. My P7 does it like this. You might check this.
The geometry .rsr (much bigger, containing binary geometry for faster loading on the weak systems way back, created from the obj on first load) you can dump at once, if you don't need it to restore a missing obj. In that case I remember a tool by Antony Appleyard . RSRtoOBJ or something...
 




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Post Re: Poser11 Pro .... A Big Jump From P4 !!

#34  Nik 26 Jul 2017 03:17

Yes, John Hoagland's 'Geometry Stripper' will pull geometry from a PP2 file, save the OBJ and update the PP2. It will save each of multiple found objects separately.

And, yes, Anthony Appleyard's rsr2obj will translate a geometry RSR to OBJ...

One advantage of having three (3) screens is I can have a serious bunch of folders open at the same time. By sheer persistence, I've managed to collate a lot of clothing with PNG & RSR but missing OBJ to the *same* clothing with thumbnail and OBJ but no RSR / PP2 etc...
 



 
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Post Re: Poser11 Pro .... A Big Jump From P4 !!

#35  Nik 28 Jul 2017 15:41

Seeing one on offer in local 'Maplin Electronics', I bought a neat Intuos Draw pen-tablet. It's a nice piece of work, will fit on this desk where my old 'Trust' A4+ mega-tablet won't.

Plug and played with Win'10 as a pointing device, but there the fun ended.

Intuos do not fully support spreading desktop across multiple screens.

First, the driver & utility software default cheerfully mapped my three screens to a letterbox across the tablet.

Yes, you can set [X1Y1, X2Y2] parameters to map tablet to a program's window, but they're NOT dynamic. If you re-size or move your window, or if a pop-up menu spreads to the side, you've lost the mapping. Surely such software can be set to track a specified program's position ?? Seems not...

This is especially annoying when working with something like IrfanView which may re-size when you edit, may have multiple windows open...

Nearest thing to a fix would be maximising eg Poser on the central display, but what if I want to work on a panoramic set ? Or overlapping the side-bars onto adjacent screens ? And HOW ON EARTH would it cope with eg TurboCAD and my preferred mix of orthogonal, perspective and info views ??

When I've had enough sleep to be sure I've not missed some essential appendix or foot-note, I'll raise another 'issue' report. First was about how difficult their site made registration...
And they don't seem to have a forum...
     

Anyhow, the Intuos is basically a nice piece of kit but, like my twin graphics cards, whose default gamer-optimised Gigabyte driver simply couldn't handle both, just needed chip-maker Nvidia's definitive down-load...
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Other fun toy that arrived was a USB triple foot-pedal which could be mapped to eg left/centre/right mouse-clicks to save changing grip on graphic tablet's pen's silly 'rocker' switch...
 



 
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Post Identifying Old Zips' 'figure', And Organising External Run Times-- SOLVED-ish !!

#36  Nik 31 Jul 2017 14:21

Between dealing with family health problems --My dear wife is in hospital *again*-- I've been investigating zips...

Gathering an artist's stuff together, related by style and/or date, I've usually been able to spot *one* essential reference among their ReadMe files. Sometimes Posette, sometimes V2, a few early up-takers with V3...

And, yes, there were a few P3 / V1 whatsits in the mix...
 
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You can tell Poser 11 hails from US; the manual has a characteristic, exasperating style I remember from wrangling Agilent lab equipment. Typically, a new HPLC system's module stack was a similar size and weight to its many manuals and validation data binders...

I'd set to work with a set of manuals, a fresh pad of post-its and my office door signed 'Do NOT Disturb'. Being a reasonable guy, that had 'Unless REALLY urgent' in small print beneath...

To put it politely, Poser's 'index' is little more than a collection of chapter and topic headings. If you're looking for something that didn't merit such, you gotta take pot-luck with the search engine...

So, via a grim mix of bloody-minded perseverance plus a pinch of serendipity, I found the innocently mis-titled section that explains, in passing, how to set up external run-times. One un-indexed paragraph solved it.

NOW, at last, all those arcane tutorials, threads etc on subject make sense. I need to create eg...

E:\ First_ERT \ First_topic \ Runtime

Browse Poser's library system to that Runtime, select 'add' and the 'First-topic' folder is duly connected.

Rinse and repeat...

I may have multiple, meaningfully named top-folders, each holding multiple, meaningfully named topics. I'll need them. I've decided to segregate the non-specific props, sets, set-kits etc from the crew and the zoo...

My first take would split Poser characters such as dear Posette from the DAZ team. A third group gets the 'Independents'-- AD/MD, Staci etc. Fourth group is the zoo.

With drive space to spare, I've decided clothing sets etc that fit multiple characters, eg A3/V3, A3/V3/V4 or V3/V4 should be copied to each 'fork'.

I'm still trying to figure how to best organise the zillion props, sets etc...

Okay, hospital visiting time approaches, and I've a list of stuff to take...
 



 
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Post Re: Poser11 Pro .... A Big Jump From P4 !!

#37  Nik 10 Oct 2017 16:06

My wife is still in hospital, is making slow progress following a bad fall on ward which broke her leg. She's struggling with a non-'Flu respiratory virus. I've got it, too, but I can help myself to non-prescription meds for the coughing and wheezing.

I've not done much with P11. Finally connected that P3 Runtime, did a trial render. Solara lives !! Upside, this CAD Tower is very, very fast. I vaguely remember the same scene taking five minutes or so to process. This time around, about one minute. Solara was one figure. Another scene, 'Getting the Point', with five P3 figures plus some detailed scenery, totally maxed out the old Tower. This time, Swoosh !!

Scene just calls for terrain, architecture, archers and a swam of hostile wingy-thingies...
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Now, some serendipity.

" Though I lost my Poser 4 Runtime to multiple drive failures,"

While loading an old WIP PZ3 scene, the texture search threw up a hit from a P4 Runtime I didn't know I had. Buried deep, deep down an obscure folder tree salvaged from the old CAD Tower's failing drives, it looks like a 'mirror' back-up from several weeks before the mega-crash. I'm not sure what it holds, but there's 3+ GB to explore.

I'm currently struggling with that non-'Flu virus but, soon as the symptoms ease, I'll point P11 library at that sprawling 'External Runtime', see what I've got...
 



 
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