Notable Posettes Of Yesteryear


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#1  Endosphere Yesterday at 04:56

One of the more important reasons Posette became so popular with cg hobbyists in the Poser 3 and Poser 4 eras was the wide and easy availability of freeware variant characters. That was a different time, when goodwill prevailed in internet culture. Artists were eager to freely share their modifications of Poser 4 characters with others, and the companies which then owned the program (first Metacreations and later Curious Labs) understood that all this free hobbyist trading was quite good for their business by stimulating and amplifying consumer interest in their software.

Twenty five years later, most of the hobbyist characters made in the Poser 4 era are nearly forgotten, which seems sad, as many of them were quite good, at least for their own time and tech level. Certainly, there were in those days many low effort and low quality offerings, which probably are best forgotten. Here I?ll focus instead on some of the more notable free P4NW characters of bygone days-- some notable in aesthetics or novelty, others in technical innovation or craftsmanship for their time.

Apart from posing the models and applying good studio lighting, I won?t change the models presented here in any way from their original form and presentation. Or if I occasionally do make an alteration, I?ll say precisely what I changed and why-- often freebies were released in those days missing critical parts or with other serious flaws, which made them simply unusable unless a knowledgeable end-user did some Poser-Fu. Either way, given the historical purpose of this discussion, an accurate depiction of the figures as they originally appeared at their time of release will be my main concern. But readers should easily see that with only a little polish of modern props and techniques, many of these characters could easily be updated and adapted for modern artistic purposes.

Please don?t ask where to find these characters today-- the answer will in all cases be: I don?t know   . Most of the small websites once hosting these characters are gone, and the large hobbyist sites which still remain purged most of their Poser 4 content long ago. As hardly anyone still uses P4NW these days, this discussion is mostly intended for historical interest of virtual doll collectors rather than practical artistic value. If any of the once-free models here are still available at all, then using the Internet Archive?s Wayback Machine to study websites of the past will almost certainly be the only way to obtain them. Broadly speaking, in Poser 4 days I probably obtained most of these models from Renderosity, Renderotica, the 3D Comic Collective, or ShareCG. At least some old models are still available from the old 3d-cc using the Wayback Machine, though most were apparently never archived, and thus are lost forever. Likewise with ShareCG. The others are now mostly flea markets for hawking $$ wares, so I doubt any figures I once upon a time got from either 'R' are still available.

As a further lesson to our wider community, most of these figures that included any documentation at all specify no redistribution allowed (otherwise I?d put them up in PF?s archive). I understand and appreciate the important reasons for adding such a clause to a free model-- one wouldn?t want greedy $$ corporations shamelessly plundering one?s freebie. On the other hand, however, all these years later when no one cares much anymore about Poser 4 era models except those of us who truly    Posette and Dork, the unfortunate and ultimate result is that those who might still be interested in these once widely-available models have no means whatever to obtain them, or use them for their intended hobbyist/non-commercial/personal entertainment purposes. It?s a sad state of affairs, but as the old song says ?We didn?t start the fire, it?s been always burning since the world was turning.?  
 



 
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#2  Endosphere Yesterday at 15:49

The first Posette I?ll consider is a rare bird indeed, the only one of her particular kind so far as I know. Black Canary was a superheroine model made by a fellow called Mr X. She was a unique fusion of the standard P4NW and Evolution Eve, a P4NW variant usually attributed to a modeller called Torino.

In Poser 4 days, the Eve model was quite popular with the Renderotica crowd. Her primary claim to fame was her exaggerated genitalia (basically a giant gash between her legs), useful (compared to standard Posette) in making sexually explicit imagery. At the time the Eve geometry was considered the height of ?realism,? though compared to modern genitalia props for Poser/Daz characters, how anyone ever thought Eve and Eve-alikes looked good aesthetically in the matter of feminine genitalia seems rather silly.

I never cared much for Eve or her subsequent iterations, largely because she was much more time-consuming to pose compared to a standard Posette; Eve used a different figure/limb architecture much more similar in complexity to modern models like the Michael and Victoria series. As well, most of the conforming clothing items available in those days for Posette were not conformable to Eve, though in fairness we should note that most Eve users did not consider that a problem, as the types of images Eve was designed to star in usually didn?t make much use of clothing.

Eventually a quality compromise model emerged called P4WWG, which combined the standard upper body of Posette with the lower body of Eve. The model never really caught on, for various reasons, perhaps the most important of which is that by that point in time most Posette users had moved on to Victoria, and dedicated quality props for simulating female genitalia were also becoming widely available. Though independently modelled, Black Canary was quite similar to P4WWG. Perhaps if there had never been a Victoria, the underlying base model of Black Canary might have become popular as more practical alternative to the eccentric Eve figure, but as matters turned out Canary?s geometry only ever appeared in this single character release, and she was apparently never heard from again.

I don?t know anything about the character Black Canary depicts, except that she was some sort of comic book heroine. Thus I can?t comment on whether Mr X?s adaptation is visually or aesthetically faithful to any source material.

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As a Posette, Black Canary was an interesting figure for several reasons (though her gaping genitalia is not amongst those in my opinion). There is the technical modelling achievement to consider, as merging two characters (Posette and Eve) with different poseable geometries is no small matter. She also came with some relatively well-made conforming clothing items and other props, such as a bustier/girdle and a jacket that opens and closes.

In Poser 4 days, the freebie jacket alone would have made Black Canary a worthwhile download. Though I don?t know who made it, this particular jacket was somewhat popular at the time; for example, it was also used by the ?Cover Girl? GI Joe Posette. But as far as I know, Mr X?s Black Canary was the only one to thoughtfully include the actual obj file for the jacket, without which the model simply doesn?t work. I?ll add, however, that great care must be taken in initially handling this item. If one didn?t know any better, unzipping Mr X?s Black Canary file into one?s Poser 4 directory would overwrite the original Female Dress Shirt obj that comes with Poser 4. In fairness, this kind of careless incompetence was common in Poser 4 freebies years ago-- as noted, several other Posette characters of the same time included the jacket, but not its obj, which is an even more ridiculous problem for the end-user. In any case, I had to text edit the Black Canary CR2 before opening it in Poser for the first time, in order to avoid these issues.

Barring actual interest in the literary character of Black Canary, the usefulness of this model was probably limited for most users to pillaging her props (as noted, the jacket is quite nice). The Eve people in those days were committed to Eve, and given her lower body Eve-style geometry, most of the Posette people would have been frustrated by Black Canary?s inability (same as Eve) to wear standard P4 clothing items below the waist. If Mr X made Black Canary as an experiment or test of skill that?s fine and lovely, but I doubt the figure?s purpose ranged much beyond that, apart of course from depicting Black Canary herself in Poserspace.

Props aside, the figure has a dizzying number of material zones, and simply overwriting her texture map would probably be much easier than attempting to apply a new (better) one. Unless one had a keen interest in the Black Canary comic character, one would almost certainly want to do that, as the figure has some clothing items simulated through direct painting onto her texture-- examples include her fishnet stockings and choker necklace. In fairness, that was a very common approach in those primitive days, and at the time I suppose Black Canary would have been a superior model for using a texture map at all, as many models of the era used direct object coloring only. Black Canary?s hair is a model called ?New Five? by JeffH, which adds some morphs to the standard Poser 4 Female Hair 5, and was a somewhat popular hairstyle for Posette in those days. Today, I think anyone looking to render Black Canary would almost certainly want to replace her hair at once with some more modern transmapped coif.

Black Canary came with an Anton Kisiel texture that was popular in those days, called Paulina, modified for use with Ms Canary?s custom geometry. The unmodified portion of the texture by Kisiel was considered quite good for that era, but the portion modified by Mr X looks rather strange, as the genitalia has a strange and unnatural hue, which seems unfortunate for a model whose primary purpose was probably repeated gynecological inspections by end-users. The model does include a bump map, but its primary purpose is to highlight the mesh stockings painted onto her legs, and does not otherwise accomplish much to enhance the appearance of her skin.

To use the model, Maz?s OBJaction Mover must be utilised to modify the original P4NW obj file. As this process adds the lower geometry, the Evolution Eve figure is not required. In any case and as noted, though Black Canary is similar to Eve below the waist, the two are not identical, so one might say it?s more the ideas and principles of Eve which informed Black Canary?s design, rather than Eve?s actual geometry (at least as far as I could determine).

When considering relics from a far more primitive cg era, we shouldn?t be unrealistically critical by applying modern standards to old models made with different technology. For her own time, Black Canary was a quality Posette figure, with a notable variety of helpful and user-friendly features that distinguished her from many other freebie characters at the time. In the end, I think she was probably an unnecessary solution in search of an unusual type of end-user, given the stubbornness of the Posette-Eve schism in those days amongst Poser hobbyists. Today, she remains of interest mostly for her technical innovations, even if her general aesthetics as a Poser model probably no longer appeal to modern sensibilities.
 



 
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#3  Dolly13 Yesterday at 18:30

For all who would like to try and reconstruct black canary by Mr. X, she is here:
https://web.archive.org/web/2001120...pages/DL27.html
second row third down. She is in the DC universe.
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#4  Endosphere Yesterday at 23:36

Thanks for the source link, Dolly13. Black Canary really was a very nice Posette for her own time, and I think any Posette fan will want to take a look at her just out of curiosity.

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As this is about history, I want to clarify something I wrote in discussing the Black Canary model. Some people (mostly two guys named Torino and Hellborn) unsatisfied with Posette's intimate anatomy came up with a figure called Evolution Eve. Eve superficially looked like Posette but used a radically different geometry and limb/posing structure (later adopted by Zygote figures such as Mike and Victoria). The figure was popularized by Traveler, who had a famous and popular website for P4 people morphs and modifications. Some people (mostly those making erotica imagery) embraced Eve immediately, but others remained loyal to Posette, mostly for the reasons I mentioned (difficulty in posing Eve, lack of clothing fits for Eve). In the end a guy called NdYVO4 made a compromise figure called P4WWG, which kept the Eve hip (including the genitalia) but otherwise restored all of Posette's original geometry. Like the original Eve, this third model was also popularized by Traveler at his famous website. Later, a guy called Arduino advanced further modifications to P4WWG, and most people who still use P4WWG today probably use the Arduino version (one famous variant toward the end of P4 days was named 'Sophia').

So Black Canary was an intermediate figure on the Eve tree between Eve and P4WWG, restoring the original Posette's upper body (abandoned by Eve), but keeping Eve's lower half. When P4WWG came later came along, Posette's original legs were also restored, so only the hip of Eve remained. As that addressed the problem of clothing Eve (for those still on the fence about Posette vs Eve), the Black Canary approach became obsolete, and that's probably why she was never seen again.

At least I think that's how it all went down in those days. I never much used Eve or P4WWG, as I was always satisfied with regular Posette. So the main guides I have in these matters are just fading memories, as many old files in my P4 archives don't include any documentation or authorship info.

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By all means if anyone has additional info or fond memories of any models discussed in this thread, join in and tell us all about it.  
 



 
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